SAN FRANCISCO -- There is no way to prove it, of course, but I think that San Diego's Adrian Gonzalez is the most underrated player in baseball. He is, in my mind, the only guy in the game that Fire Joe Morgan's Ken Tremendous could have written this about on Deadspin:
"You know who's overlooked? Adrian F----- Gonzalez. Nobody in the world outside of Adrian Gonzalez's immediate family has any idea he even exists, much less that he is one of the very best hitters in the world. A reporter recently asked Yorvit Torrealba to talk about how good Adrian Gonzalez has been for the Pads this year, and Torrealba said, 'There is no one on our team by that name. You are mistaken. Perhaps you mean to ask about David Eckstein?'"
I think Gonzalez has the underrated award all to himself -- has had it for a couple of years. But, you know, you could also make an argument for San Francisco's Aubrey Huff. Have you seen the year this guy's having? He plays three position, appears to be playing them all well, he is slugging .500, he is in the top 10 in the league in walks, he has scored 100 runs. In a season when the Giants seemingly unshakeable Tim Lincecum ran into a late summer rough patch and last year's breakout star Pablo Sandoval has lost his Kung Fu Panda mojo, Huff has been a driving force and as big a reason as any player, I suspect, for the Giants being on the brink of the playoffs.
Now, you may disagree, you may rank other players as more underrated -- it's all a make-believe argument anyway. But I would say there's at least a pretty good shot that the players you might call most underrated will be in the National League West.
There is something dreamlike about the NL West ... and not only because so many of their games are played while two-thirds of America is asleep. No, this is one crazy division. Here's a little fact for you: If the Giants go to the playoffs -- they're one win away -- that will mean that in the last five seasons all five NL West teams have reached the playoffs. All five in five years -- no other division can claim anything even close to this. Here's how many seasons back you have to go to say that every team in a division has made the postseason:
AL East: 18 seasons (Toronto last made it in 1993)
AL Central: 26 seasons (Kansas City last made it in 1985)
AL West: 10 seasons (Seattle last made it in 2001 -- and remember there are only four teams in the AL West)
NL East: Infinity (Washington has never made the postseason; if you want to go back to their days in Montreal you have to go back to 1981).
NL Central: 19 seasons (PIttsburgh last made it in 1992 -- have not had a winning season since).
NL West: 5 seasons (The Padres last made it in 2006)
That's absurd, right? The only team to not actually win the division the last five seasons is the Colorado Rockies (they made it twice as a wildcard), and they are also the only team from the division the last five seasons to go the World Series. This division is just a late-night roulette wheel -- so late that the results don't make it into the morning paper.
Take this year. In our SI "experts" preseason predictions this year -- there were 13 of us -- we picked the West as follows:
Six of us picked the Rockies.
Five of us picked the Dodgers.
One of us picked the Diamondbacks.
One of us picked the Giants.
The point isn't that only one of us (Ted Keith, congrats!) probably got it right by picking the Giants. The point is that we clearly had no idea. We picked four of the five teams, and the one team we DID NOT pick, the San Diego Padres, was leading the division almost the entire season and still has a shot, by sweeping San Francisco, to win the thing. We have no idea how to pick the NL West because there isn't a way to pick the NL West.
Here's what you have in the NL West:
1. You have the most extreme pitchers park in baseball (San Diego.
2. You have the most extreme hitters park in baseball (Colorado).
3. You have the team that, most years, leads the National League in attendance (Los Angeles).
4. You have a team that has struck out more than any in baseball history (the Arizona Diamondbacks).
5. You have three teams that have never won the World Series (Colorado, San Diego and San Francisco -- the Giants did win the World Series in New York).
6. More people pack into NL West Stadiums as a group by far than any other division in baseball.*
*Here's the average attendance in 2010 by division:
1. NL West: 2.68 million
2. NL Central (shocker, eh?): 2.47 million.
3. AL East: 2.37 million
4. NL East: 2.35 million
5. AL West: 2.27 million
6. AL Central (no shocker): 2.12 million.
All this stuff thrown together seems to give the NL West a wild quality. You might get an absurd pitchers game (San Diego this year has been involved in TEN 1-0 games, the most in baseball ... right after them is the Dodgers with 9 and the Giants with 8). You might get an absurd hitters game (The Rockies and Diamondbacks have both played seven games where 15 or more runs were scored -- only the Mets have played in more). You will get a lot of home runs (Arizona, Colorado and San Francisco are third, fourth and sixth in the league in homers) and a lot of Ks (the Giants' and Padres' staffs are first and second in all of baseball in Ks, the Dodgers are fourth -- strikeout pitchers like facing the Diamondbacks). It really is a free for all.
And this year that has led to a typically exciting, excruciating, thrilling and baffling pennant race. For the first five months or so, the Padres rather shockingly stayed on top of the division. Yes, we knew how they were winning -- they pitched great, especially out of the bullpen, and won the majority of their close games -- but we really had no idea HOW they were winning. Other than Kevin Correja -- who has struggled much of the year -- the entire starting rotation was new. The bullpen was pinched together with some a bunch of unfamiliar names who kept getting people out. And the Padres, except for the titanic Adrian Gonzalez, could not really hit. The Padres won 1-0 six times. They were up 6 1/2 games in late August.
Then ... they lost 10 in a row. They are only 12-12 since the losing streak, which puts them one loss away from elimination. This is where people usually write "the Padres had their inevitable collapse," and maybe it was inevitable. The Padres' overpowering quality is that they cannot hit. They are 12th in the league in runs scored and it's hard to win a division when you are 12th in the league in runs scored. But crazy stuff happens in the NL West. In 2008, the Dodgers finished 13th in runs scored and won the division. In 2007, the Rockies won 14 of their last 15 to race into the playoffs and, eventually, the World Series*. In 2001, the Arizona Diamondback essentially rode two dominant pitchers and one bizarre 57-homer season to the championship. The Padres story was no stranger than those.
*You can probably stump your baseball friends with this trivia question: Name the NL West team that has gone the longest period of time since appearing in the World Series. If they know baseball and think about it, they might get it. But if they go off instinct, NOBODY would think it's the Los Angeles Dodgers.
And anyway, the team they are battling -- the Giants -- are hardly a paragon of consistency. They won seven of their first nine to start the season and then played lousy for a while then played great, then played lousy again. Starting May 7 they:
-- Lost four out of five.
-- Won four out of five.
-- Lost five in a row
-- Won five out of six.
And so on. A four-game winning streak. A seven-game losing streak. On Independence Day, the Giants were one game over .500. And then, some things began happening. Buster Posey hit .450 his next 20 games. The aforementioned Huff hit .400. Matt Cain became was his old workhorse self -- the Giants have won 12 of the last 15 times he has pitched. And so on. The Giants immediately won nine out of 10, and seven of the following 10. Yes, they were 6 1/2 games back on August 25, but thanks to the Padres' losing streak and their own good play, they were tied for the division lead 16 days later. They moved into a tie, fittingly, with a 1-0 win over San Diego.
The Rockies made an exciting (if brief) run at the top which promised an exciting finish to the race ... which is why I'm here in San Francisco. But the excitement has drained the last few days. The Rockies collapsed. The Padres have faded. The Giants have pulled three games ahead ... as mentioned it will take a Padres sweep just to force a playoff*. And with the Giants at home that sweep seems unlikely.
*If necessary ... if they both qualified for the playoffs, there would be no playoff. The division title would be decided by a tiebreaker.
Then again, EVERYTHING about the NL West is unlikely. It looks like this time it might finish quietly, but you can never bet on that in this division. Like always, if you want to know, you really will have to stay up late and see what happens.
AL East: 18 seasons (Toronto last made it in 1983)
ReplyDeleteI think you meant 1993, Joe.
Joe, I believe the Blue Jays last made the post-season in 1993 when they won their 2nd Wrold Series in a row. I seem to remember being at the 1992 parade, so 1983 seems incorrect to me.
ReplyDeleteHas Baltimore really made it since then? They've been so bad for so long, definitely not the team of my youth.
I said it at the time, and my prophecy came true. Jimmy Rollins's extra-inning slide, which was quite possibly, the greatest slide in the history of baseball, catapulted the Phillies to their run while dooming the Padres.
ReplyDeleteMy mistake. Baltimore did indeed make it in '96 and '97. Sorry O's fans!
ReplyDeleteI think Orioles fans will disagree with your assessment that Aubrey Huff plays three positions and plays them well.
ReplyDeleteJust to pick a little nit, not only did the Blue Jays make the playoffs in 1993, but the correct calculation would be 16 seasons (if we include the 2010 season) since there was no post-season in baseball in 1994 due to the work stoppage.
ReplyDeleteYou guys are freaking brutal...Joe had the right amount of seasons...just didn't take into account the strike and had a typo of 1983 instead of 1993. Relax already!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSix comments in and half deal with a typo.
ReplyDeleteDo the attendance numbers account for the different number of teams? That might explain why the NL central is so high.
ReplyDeleteAubrey Huff was a disasterous late season pick-up for Detroit last year. Maybe playing those three postions so well helped his swing. I wish Leyland would have thought of that.
ReplyDeleteBaltimore Way, I don't know what to tell you, but as a Giants fan I can attest that Huff's defense has been just fine. (He's played mainly at first; the starts in the outfield were just in that weird period where Bochy was trying to play both Posey and Molina in the same game.) Not only that, he has a surprising number of stolen bases and at least one home run. If I were an O's fan I'd definitely be scratching my head. Same if I were a Rays fan, regarding Pat Burrell.
ReplyDeleteSorry: I meant, "at least one inside-the-park home run." As a 1B he'd better have at least one home run!
ReplyDeleteJust as another bit of NL West Bizarro World Baseball, the '07 Diamondbacks were outscored on the season, yet won the division (and had the best record in the NL) with a 90-72 record.
ReplyDeleteYour proposed trivia question seemed far too easy to me. I am wondering if might be a generational thing (I am 23), as the dodgers haven't been in a WS since I started following baseball. Maybe Vin Scully is so exquisite that people forget that the dodgers haven't been too significant since '88?
ReplyDeleteThe NL central doesn't surprise me. I'm a Reds fan and I still think St. Louis is the best baseball town in the country. The Cubs always fill Wrigley. Sure, there are some stinkers in the division, but these teams pull everyone else up, and, except for Pittsburgh, everyone has been good in recent memory.
ReplyDeleteWell, the Padres could fail to sweep the Giants and still force a playoff - but that would be a wildcard playoff with the Braves. And that's dependent on how Atlanta does in their series with the Phillies this weekend.
ReplyDeleteToo bad it doesn't look like all 3 teams will finish with 91 wins. MLB's playoff schedule actually would accomodate a "NL West Playoff" on Monday. Followed by a "Monday's-Loser-Plays-the-Braves" on Tuesday.
Over at LetsGoTribe, there's a running gag where somebody mentions a player's stats and then everyone else says "IN... THE... NL... WEST."
ReplyDeleteAs in, it's so terrible that Ed Mujica can go look like an all-star.
Apollo: Gotta love fans of a team that plays in the AL Central making fun of another division.
ReplyDeleteApollo, you're truly clueless. Congratulations.
ReplyDeleteI'm a bit surprised the attendance numbers are that high for the NL East. Sure, the Phillies sold out every game. But on the flip side, we have the Nationals and Marlins in our division.
ReplyDeleteI very much agree with you on the point about Huff picking up the slack left by Sandoval's precipitous drop in production. Besides Huff, Burrell and Torres have also outproduced their expected returns, and I would say that that overachieving trio has as much to do with the Giants winning the division as anything (the rest of the cast is performing about as we expected). That said, I think it's unlikely the 2011 Giants could reap that sort of production from Huff (or his 2011 replacement), Torres, and Burrell (or his 2011 replacement), so for now I'll take the field to win the 2011 NL West rather the Giants (more NL West parity, if you will).
ReplyDeleteTo the young baseball fan, the Dodgers went to the World Series 15 times from 1947-1988 so that's why it seems incredible that they haven't gone from 1989-2009.
ReplyDeleteThe Dodgers should really dominate that division with the economic advantage they have. They're not only in the second biggest market in America, they also routinely sell-out Dodger Stadium.
It's pretty easy to guess the answer to the Dodger question because they never shut up about 1988.
ReplyDeleteApollo: As someone who frequents Let's Go Tribe, I would expect you to know about park effects and the Padres excellent defense, two things that would contribute to Mujica's stats looking good. Obviously he isn't that good, but using him as an example of the NL West being terrible is misguided.
ReplyDeleteThe NL West as a whole is 115-91 against the NL Central, 80-86 against the NL East, and 35-40 in interleague play this year. That seems like a pretty competitive division to me.
This is not relevant, but the Indians went 5-13 against the terrible NL this year.
Uh, not all divisions are created equal (as you pointed out and promptly forgot two paragraphs later:
ReplyDeleteAttendance per team per division (using your numbers):
AL West 567,500
NL West 536,000
AL East 474,000
NL East 470,000
AL Central 424,000
NL Central 411,667
Std Dev 55,875
Mean 475,333
NL Central isn't even within one StdDev of the mean. Get out of here with your Reds and Cards. Booooo!
(And if i'm going to be lame enough to post at 9:51 on a Friday, I can only hope you see it, Joe). Sigh
ReplyDeleteWhat day is it?
ReplyDeleteAs an FYI, steak, Joe posted the average attendance of the 4/5/6 teams in each division. That already takes into account the number of teams in each division.
ReplyDeleteThe worst drawing team in MLB (Indians) has drawn 1.4ish million fans to their home games.
(http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2010-misc.shtml)
Despite the fact that San Diego will probably miss the playoffs, their season has been amazing. If they do miss the playoffs they will have the best record of any team not to make it.
ReplyDeleteAt the beginning of the season, they were predicted by many to lose @ 100 games. There were preseason stories about where Gonzalez and Heath Bell would be traded. (It was considered a foregone conclusion that the Padres would have a mid season dump)
The NL West seems to have an exciting race every year, and is probably the only division that can say that.
I guess I'd be more impressed with the NL West if they had won a World Series game since Game 5 of 2002.
ReplyDeleteEvery year they do seem to have an exciting race, and every year I find it hard to get invested. Not really buying the Giants or Pads as serious contenders to win it all this year either.
It's like saying that the Democratic primaries in Alabama are always close and unpredictable. Maybe they are, but in the end so what?
Re the Dodgers dodging victories. The team is owned by the McCourts, who are in a bitter divorce.
ReplyDeleteWe all know that divorce affects the children worst of all. The Dodgers blame themselves for their parents/owners marital problems.
And so they act out.
True about the NL West in the World Series, but since the Cards won the Series in '06, the NL Central has only won one playoff game - and that was by the wild-card Brewers in '08. The division is 1-12 in the last three years.
ReplyDeleteJoe is right on target about A Gonzalez's value and how much he is underrated. No doubt about it. However saying that other pads just now and again "run into" a pitch - as Ludwick did Fri night - is overstating that case a lot.
ReplyDeleteRyan was the 3rd best bat on a Cards team that had AP and Matt. He has had issues as a Pad but he doesn't just need to run into a pitch to get started up again.
Gonzalez is underrated. However, he was named to the all-star game roster without a special vote like another player who had/has better stats (Joey Votto).
ReplyDeleteTherefore, Votto is even more underrated.
as i skimmed over the later comments, i'm suprised to see i'm the first to highlight the NL West remains wide open for at least one more day...
ReplyDeleteas a pads fan, I fully expect them to sweep the weekend series and get no-hit by Lincecum on Monday.
ReplyDeleteThe NL West was known for drama in the old days with Atlanta in the division too: last day of 1982 season, Joe Morgan 3-run homer for Giants knocking out the Dodgers; same thing the last weekend of 1991; Dodgers knocking out Giants in 1993. But my favorite stay-up-late to catch the NL West coast game memory was earlier in the last week of 1991, when the Dodgers played the Padres after the Braves played the Reds. On the critical Tuesday in that race, Atlanta rallied from a 6-0 1st inning deficit to win 7-6 on a Dave Justice 2-run homer in the top of the 9th. I remember staying up to catch every 20 minute update on the Dodgers-Padres game on WFAN by Ian Eagle -- the Padres rallied and scored the winning run on an infield hit that night, the Braves had finally caught the Dodgers, and they never looked back.
ReplyDeleteCorrection: the Dodgers loss to the Padres was the following night, Wednesday, after the tension had been maintained with a Dodgers win Tuesday and Braves win Wednesday. The infield hit did not score the winning run but it loaded the bases with nobody out and the game tied in the top of the 8th. Baseball Reference calls it a "Bunt to Weak 3B." It was by Jack Howell and was the key play of the inning by WPA.
ReplyDeleteOne more note: the Justice homer Tuesday was off Rob Dibble.
@ Steak #fail
ReplyDeleteSt. Louis (4) 3.3 M
Chicago (7) 3.1 M
Milwaukee (11) 2.8 M
Houston (16) 2.3 M
Cincinnati (20) 2.1 M
Pittsburgh (27) 1.6 M
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance