Look, sometimes the intentional walk "works." No matter how much I might despise the thing, I cannot deny that basic reality. One job of a manager is to, best of his ability, put his team in position to prevent the other team from scoring runs. And there's no question that walking to avoid the other team's best hitters, or walking a batter with the pitcher coming up, or walking to set up a double play ... these things will often accomplish the goal. I hate the intentional walk so much that I sometimes fail to mention this. So I'll start with it here. Sometimes, the damned thing works.
See, the intentional walk is not like a regular walk. It's not as valuable. The Hardball Times did a fascinating bit on this a couple of years ago when they used linear weights to show how the intentional walk played out from 2005-2008.
Intentional Walk Situations 2005
Original situation: 932 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,148 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,038 actual runs.
Intentional Walk Situations 2006
Original situation: 1067 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,318 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,217 actual runs.
Intentional Walk Situations 2007
Original situation: 1,016 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,249 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,129 actual runs.
Intentional Walk Situations 2008
Original situation: 974 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,220 expected runs.
After IBB: 1,065 actual runs.
There's quite a lot that you can take from these numbers, I think, but the main two are these:
1. After an intentional walk, teams as a whole score more runs than the original expectation ... which is probably obvious since you are putting another man on base.
2. While that's true, they score quite a bit less -- almost 10% less -- than the NEW expectation.*
*In other words, let's say the opposing team has a man on 2nd with one out. According to Baseball Prospectus' run matrix, in 2010 they would be expected, on average, to score .68 runs for the rest of the inning.
Now, let's say your pitcher unintentionally walks a guy. Now there are runners on first and second with one out. So the expectation changes. Now your opponent would be expected, on average, to score .88 runs in the inning. The expectation obviously goes up.
But if it's an INTENTIONAL WALK, the expected runs doesn't go up quite as much. The new run expectation would land somewhere in the middle, somewhere between .68 and .88. The other team would not score as much as they would on a normal walk because there's usually at least some logic behind the intentional walk -- it's usually done for reasonable match-up purposes.
So yes, absolutely, sometimes the intentional walk works. Sometimes it minimizes damage. Sometimes it helps your pitcher get out of the inning unscathed. Sometimes ...
But I still despise it -- as I've written many times -- for two basic reasons. One is more of a gut reaction: I think the intentional walk basically wimpy and anti-competition. When you intentionally walk the other team's best hitter, for instance, are you making it a better game? Absolutely not. In my opinion, you are doing the opposite. You are showing no confidence in your pitcher or team. You are taking away a potentially exciting moment from the fans. You are refusing to take the game head on. You are inviting bad karma. And you are bringing a boring, negative, final inning of The Bad News Bears vibe to the game. An intentional walk is like the prevent defense squared.
Two, in the larger sense, it doesn't work. The intentional walk works just enough to keep the illusion going, but as you can see by The Hardball Times numbers above, teams, over a whole season, will allow more runs after an intentional walk than they would have been expected to allow otherwise. I do realize that managers don't really care about the larger sense -- they only care about the moment, and in the moment it seems to make a whole lot of sense to walk Albert Pujols, to walk Josh Hamilton, to walk to the pitchers spot. If it works in the moment, the manager and the fans certainly won't care that, in the long run, walking somebody will make matters worse. People who win at blackjack don't care that most people lose. I understand. But it's still a negative strategy.
Tuesday, Texas vs. New York, was a glorious game for anti-intentional walk people like myself. Twice, pronounced intentional walk situations came up. One manager walked. One manager trusted his team. And, for one night at least, the baseball gods provided justice.
The intentional walk you will remember instantly -- when an intentional walk backfires, there's no hiding. I still have absolutely no idea why Joe Girardi intentionally walked David Murphy in the sixth inning. Even if if put on my "OK, let's talk reasonably about intentional walks" hat, I have no idea why Joe Girardi walked David Murphy. I thought it was bizarre.
Let's set it up again. Sixth inning. Yankees led Texas 3-2. Texas' Nelson Cruz was on second base -- he had hustled to second base on a long fly ball to center. A.J. Burnett was still pitching for the Yankees*.
*We can question that one too, but let's stay focused.
OK, David Murphy came to the plate. David Murphy is a pretty good hitter, especially against righties. He's not a great hitter, understand. He has never gotten 500 plate appearances in a season. But he's a pretty good hitter. This year he hit .291/.358/.449 which is good. Over his whole career, he has been about that good against right-handed pitchers. In 22 plate appearances against A.J. Burnett -- if you care about such things -- he has been about that good: He hit .294/.455/.471 against Burnett.
On deck was Bengie Molina. And Molina had a dreadful offensive season. He hit .249/.297/.326 this year. Against righties over his whole career he has hit .265/.296/.384 -- that on-base percentage, whew, it's fair to say that Bengie doesn't believe in walking (or running). He had only faced Burnett five times, and only managed one hit, so that doesn't really tell us anything.
There's no question that, in a vacuum, the Yankees would rather face Molina there. If baseball changed the rules (don't tempt Bud) and allowed the opposing team to choose which hitter was sent to the plate, the Yankees would and should always pick Molina instead of Murphy. But that's not what we're dealing with here. What we're dealing with here is:
-- Facing David Murphy with the tying run on second.
-- Facing Bengie Molina with the tying run on second AND the go-ahead run on first.
That's a big difference in situation. Is it that big of a difference in hitter? I don't think so. You know what the difference between a .249 hitter and a .291 hitter? You should know this from repeated viewings of Bull Durham. Over 500 at-bats, it's 20 hits. The season is 21 weeks long. It is about one hit a week. One guy will get about seven hits in a 24-at-bat week. One guy will get about six.
To me, it's a bad, bad bet -- even if you believe in the intentional walk. Yes, in the Molina situation you have a slightly better chance of getting out of the inning without giving up a run. But you have a better chance of giving up MORE runs.*
*For fun (I did this once before with Albert Pujols) let's look at typical Molina vs. Murphy in those situations -- we'll use the last two years as our guide. In parenthesis, I'll put how many runs each outcome would produce over 500 plate appearances.
Murphy -- runner on second, two outs.
-- 65% of the time he will make an out (0 runs).
-- 16% of the time he single (81 runs over 500 PAs)
-- 5% of the time he will double (26 runs)
-- Less than 1% of the time he will triple (2 runs)
-- 3% of the time he will homer (30 runs).
-- About 10% of the time he will walk or get hit by pitch (0 runs but extends the inning).
That's a total of 139 runs. The inning continues 35% of the time.
Molina -- runner on first and second, two outs.
-- 71% of the time he will make an out (0 runs)
-- 17% of the time he will single (85 runs)
-- 4% of the time he will double (20 certain runs, add however many runs you get from Murphy scoring from first ... I added 7 runs. So that's 27).
-- Less than 1% of the time he will triple (how Bengie Molina hit two triples the last two years I'll never know -- add 2 runs).
-- 2.5% of the time he will homer (39 runs runs).
-- About 5% of the time he will walk or get hit by pitch (0 runs but extends the inning).
That is a total of 153 runs. The inning continues 29% of the time.
So there's your tradeoff. Are you willing to increase your chances of giving up ZERO runs by five or six percent by also increasing your chances of giving up more runs? I honestly do not see why you would. Not in this situation. I mean ninth inning, tie score, you have to get out of it to force extra innings, I get it. But here? You're at home. You're up a run. Why would you put the go-ahead run on base? Why would you walk David Murphy who, no disrespect, ain't exactly Dale Murphy? And it's not like Bengie Molina is incapable of heroics -- the guy did hit three home runs against the Yankees in the 2005 ALCS. They showed those home runs back-to-back-to-back on TBS just before the at-bat, which led to a cool television moment ...
... because, of course, Molina crushed Burnett's first pitch into the left-field stands for a three-run homer that may have ended the Yankees World Series dreams. Baseball, as a game, isn't really about justice, but everything about THAT home run felt just. You're the manager of THE New York Yankees, for crying out loud, and you're at home, and you're up a run, and you intentionally walk David Murphy in the sixth inning? Yes, for us Intentional Walk Bashers, that Molina home run was like Mardi Gras.
But there was another, perhaps less-noticed situation just a half inning earlier. The Yankees had runners on first and second with one out. Lefty Derek Holland was on the mound. Alex Rodriguez was at the plate.
Now, here was a potential intentional walk situation -- if such a thing exists. A-Rod, a righty, was at the plate. Robinson Cano, a lefty, was on deck. It is true that A-Rod throughout his career has hit lefties slightly WORSE than righties -- and this year he hit only .217 against lefties. It is also true that Cano, while he does not hit lefties quite as well, does hit them well enough.
But you don't need me to list off all the reasons why an intentional walk there is a bad choice. The point is, some managers would seriously consider an intentional walk here. Last year, teams walked A-Rod eight times to face Cano though it's interesting to note that this year it only happened once*. When the situation came up I got a couple of emails and Twitter responses wondering why the Rangers would not intentionally walk A-Rod.
*It's somewhat telling -- both about the development of A-Rod and Cano -- that Rodriguez was only intentionally walked once all year.
But, say what you will about Ron Washington's, um, sometimes unconventional managing -- he does not believe in the intentional walk. Only my guy Gardy in Minnesota intentionally walked fewer batters than Wash in 2010. I don't know if Washington avoids the intentional walk for statistical reasons, for personal reasons, because he doesn't want to back down -- and I don't care. The Rangers pitched to A-Rod. And A-Rod certainly could have hit a long home run, which would have left Washington forced to answer some hard questions. He could have drilled a double that scored two runs and left people shaking their heads.
But on this good intentional walk day, A-Rod hit into the inning-ending double play, setting up Girardi and the Yankees for their fateful meeting with intentional walk destiny.
Circle me, Tom Niedenfuer!
ReplyDeleteThe thing that really shocked me was that Murphy represented the winning run. I wouldn't be nuts about the IBB anyway, but it seemed really crazy to go against such a basic principle for such a relatively small advantage (Murphy not being all that great, or Molina all that awful.) And, of course, turned out to be just that.
Circle me Barry Bonds.
ReplyDeleteHere's my question about that IBB, and something that might inspire Joe to crunch even more numbers:
ReplyDeleteWhy, oh why, oh why, would you walk David Murphy to let Bengie Molina hit against a pitcher that he CAUGHT for - for an entire season?
You've got to like Molina's chances in that situation more than Murphy's.
Of course, now Joe could prove that point wrong by bringing out the stats showing that catchers don't actually hit any better against pitchers that they caught for...
Man, I'd hate to read that article. *wink wink*
What I can't tell from this post or from the referenced THT posting is whether or not they accounted for bottom-of-the-ninth (and bottom-of-an-extra-inning) situations. A lot of intentional walks are issued in those situations, and frequently the inning ends with just one run (the winning run) coming across, but runners still on and outs still remaining. So the batting team would artificially underperform against expected runs.
ReplyDeleteThe simplest way to account for this would be to just take those situations out of the study. If they did that (and they're generally very smart), no issue. If they didn't, these numbers may in fact oversell the effectiveness of the IBB.
Washington's decision not to walk ARod wasn't a big deal because the runners were on 1st and 2nd. The intentional walk is used most frequently to get to a weaker hitter while ALSO setting up a force out or double play situation with 1 out.
ReplyDeleteJoe said: "The point is, some managers would seriously consider an intentional walk here."
ReplyDeleteSorry, Joe, but I strongly disagree. Managers aren't going to move a runner into scoring position via the intentional walk very often. If first base were open, there's a chance Rodriguez gets walked; but not with a runner already on first. You don't want to move a runner into scoring position without making the offensive team "earn" it. Not to mention not wanting to move a runner to third base, where he can score on weird plays like wild pitches.
I agree the IBB is bad. But I don't think that situation is one you can point to as a shining example of where a manager eschewed the IBB.
I am with Joe in his anti-IBB stance in that it often is a bad strategy that leads to more runs. I don't agree on the "anti-competition" angle (that, in Joe's words, "you are showing no confidence," "taking away a potentially exciting moment from the fans, "refusing to take the game head on," and "inviting bad karma.")
ReplyDeleteIn that sense, an IBB is not unlike a quarterback opting never to throw in the direction of a shutdown cornerback, or a basketball team double-teaming a star post player so he never gets the ball, or a tennis player consistently hitting the ball away from his opponent's lethal forehand, etc. All are valid strategies that may frustrate the fans but increase the chances of victory. I don't think you can criticize the move on that basis.
Cano hits home runs off of lefties at almost twice the rate that he does against right-handed pitchers. I don't think many managers would walk ARod with a runner on first base anyway, but it would be particularly bad to put him on base for Cano, especially with a lefty pitching.
ReplyDelete@Keith K. --
ReplyDeleteThe whole point is that the IBB does NOT increase a team's chances of winning. It DOES increase the amount of runs they are liable to give up in that inning (see the stats Joe gave). In fact, as Rollins correctly pointed out, it may be even worse that those stats indicate.
Plus, as mentioned: it was only the 6th inning; the Yankees already had the lead; and Murphy represented the go-ahead (and potential winning) run. Just an unbelieveably stupid move all around. Molina's HR was just perfect karmic justice.
Speaking of A-Rod being intentionally walked only once all year reminds me of one of my favorite baseball stats of all time: in 1961, the year he set the "real" (i.e., non-steroid) record with 61 HRs, Roger Maris was walked intentionally ZERO times.
I'm guessing having some guy named Mickey Mantle in the on-deck circle might have influenced that number. ;-)
I agree with John in Philly - this seems like a pretty weak thought experiment, contrived merely for the sake of drawing a pleasing parallel. I would like to see statistics that support the description of runners on 1st and 2nd as a "potential intentional walk situation." How many times last year did a manager give the team an extra base AND load the bases by issuing an intentional walk? Maybe I'm wrong, but I imagine that if that kind of thing ever happens, it's only in really, really weird circumstances.
ReplyDeleteThe first part of the post was spot on though.
In the run expectation calculation for the IBB to Murphy to pitch to Molina you forgot the ~6% (HBT's avg number) of the time Molina will GIDP which will make the numbers a bit more balanced.
ReplyDeleteEditor's note: Anonymous ... there were two outs.
ReplyDelete"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!"
ReplyDelete- Homer J. Simpson
I'm not really convinced by this either. What would be interesting to note is the change in win expectancy before and after the IBB. Some situations late in the game (where there are more IBBs) I can see this being a +WE% move even if it increases the expected runs. Situations like tie games in the 9th (or in the 8th if the opponent has a really good closer). I just wonder how that expected run formula is calculated.
ReplyDeleteBut hey, either way, do you really think people are going to just walk A-Rod with runners on 1st and 2nd? Intentional walks with a man on first are rare in any event. Maybe if it was Barry Bonds up there. Obviously in the NL intentional walks are a neat tool since the pitcher usually bats 2-3 times and many pitchers struggle to keep a .100 BA. Even then, you rarely see someone just walk the bases loaded like that.
That said, spot on when it comes to the Bengie Molina HR - I thought that was beyond ridiculous. Such a weird call and I'm glad that the Yanks are all but out of it now.
Perhaps the Rangers should have left Bengie Molina pitch the 9th inning. This would have been far more exciting and made the game more competitive.
ReplyDeletePerhaps they should have put out 7 infielders and 0 outfielders. Outfielders, how wimpy can you get! Do you really have so little confidence in your pitcher that you think the batter will hit the ball into the outfield?
1st and 2nd and one out is an intentional walk situation? Surely that is stretching the circumstances to fit your argument. Love reading you, Joe, but sometimes you veer into the odd point.
ReplyDeleteJoe,
ReplyDeleteI love reading your articles, but I have to disagree with the way you carried out your Murphy/Molina data experiment here. In your experiment, you seem to have used both players' overall stats, as opposed to their splits versus righties. This would seemingly even out the expected runs at least some as Murphy was better against righties (.294/.364/.472 as opposed to his overall numbers of .291/.358/.449 you used) and Molina was horrid against righties (.213/.253/.292 as opposed to his overall numbers of .249/.297/.326 you used).
Chris
@Wm, Don
ReplyDeleteBenjie Molina has never caught AJ (unless in an All Star game years ago). His brother Jose caught AJ last year when AJ and Posada were having their constant squabble.
Agree with the notion that the IBB was the wrong move there but the error was compounded by Joe's refusal to go out there and pull AJ to bring in, well, anyone at that point. Joba. Boone. AJ had clearly blown up from the very first pitch of the 6th inning and should have been replaced immediately after the walk.
Anonymous, you're forgetting about AJ's years north of the border, perhaps?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2006.shtml
As a child learning about baseball, I didn't understand the intentional walk. I still don't understand it. The little kid in me is still saying it doesn't make sense.
ReplyDeleteI'm a Rockies fan, and we are a very streaky team. Sometimes we go on 10 game winning streaks. Sometimes Carlos Gonzalez hits a bunch of homeruns in a row. Sometimes Troy Tulowitzki hits a bunch of homeruns in a row. And usually around that time managers in the NL get the idea to intentionally walk Gonzalez to face Tulowitzki. And then Troy hits a homerun. I'm too lazy to look it up, but this happened in several games in September. I don't get it.
I love your blog and agree with most of your posts...at the risk of being seen as a nit picker, I must point out that you have mixed up the words percent and percentage points which is one of my pet peeves...when you say going from 35% to 29% is only a 6 percent decrease, that is INCORRECT...it IS only a 6 percentage POINT decrease, but it is a 17% decrease (the change from 35 to 29 equals 6/35 or 17%)...when you compare percents and note their difference, the difference is PERCENTAGE POINTS not percent...glad I got that off my chest
ReplyDeleteI have no problem with the intentional walk - to me it's not so different than pitching around a hitter. What's the alternative - expecting the umpire to judge intent?
ReplyDeleteDo agree entirely with pretty much everything Joe said, except I don't think that A-Rod thing is a fair "Look how great Washington is for not doing it!". I hated, HATED the walk of Murphy and was pissed that Girardi did it, but if Girardi was managing the Rangers, I don't think for one second he would have walked A-Rod in that situation nor do I think any manager with a brain would have. I get what you're saying, but the fact is, there are tons and tons of differences from the earlier situation.
ReplyDelete#1, first base was not open. Sometimes it's stupid logic, but that does matter.
#2, 1 out, not 2. Walking him moves a guy up to third, putting someone in sac fly position, and moving a second runner to scoring position.
#3, Cano could be the AL MVP. He's not exactly crap. Now, I'm not saying he SHOULD be the AL MVP, but he's certainly in the conversation, and before today was the only Yankee (well, Granderson too) hitting. He certainly outhit A-Rod both this year and this postseason. He already had 3 home runs. And he is not neutralized by lefties. Better against righties, yes, but not neutralized by lefties, who he hit 13 home runs against this year (in significantly less at bats than he had against righties).
People probably did ask you about walking Alex, but ya know, people also wanted to trade Melky Cabrera and Ian Kennedy for every top player in baseball. Walking A-Rod there would have been one of the stupider moves I'd ever seen in baseball. Girardi's intentional walk was dumb, and a move I absolutely hated, but I do get the "logic". It's bad, but I get it. Bengie Molina worse, do not want to give up even one run. Walking A-Rod to pitch to Cano would have been a far worse move.
I'd like to see a breakdown of the efficacy of the IBB in the various situations in which it's used.
ReplyDeleteFor example, I assume that the IBB is a lot more effective when you are walking the #8 hitter to get to the pitcher than it is when you are using it just to avoid the #4 hitter or for lefty-righty matchup purposes.
And I'm sorry, but I can't think of a single situation in which I'd walk anyone, even Babe Ruth, with runners on 1st and 2nd. Why would you create the possibility of walking in a run or allowing a run to score on a WP or PB?! And with less than two outs?! Then you've got the chance of a SF or a ball in the hole on which there's no play at the plate!
Ron Washington wasn't making a conscious strategic move there - he was using common sense.
Now, had there been runners on 2nd and 3rd and less than 2 outs, that would make a lot more sense. Yes, you've still made it possible to walk in a run, but that is countered by the fact that you've set up a force at the plate and opened the chance for a GIDP.
I also can't think of a situation, other than maybe to get to the pitcher, when I'd walk someone intentionally with 2 outs. And even then, it would probably have to be late in a game when the other team's bench is very thin. But even then, aren't you better off trying to pitch to the #8 hitter very carefully, not giving him anything to hit? If you happen to walk him, you are no worse off. And if he swings at a bad pitch, you are much better off.
-Brian
Roy Turner's intentional walk strategy was ultimately successful, though not in the way he seems to have planned it. Reliever Billy gave the world a prescient illustration of Francisco Cordero's approach to relief pitching, walking Ogilvie and Miguel, but managing to secure the necessary third out to hold the lead, secure the championship and send his team to Pizza Hut.
ReplyDeleteIf Buttermaker had let Kelly take the IBB,
the Bears risked being caught batting out of order as Rudi batted between Kelly and Engelberg twice earlier in the game, then made the first out of the final inning trying to stretch a single into a double. Does Buttercrud know he has to send someone to bat between Kelly and Engelberg, so he tells Kelly to swing away? Does Turner know this already and plan to protest, a la Billy Martin, after the fact? Would Boilermaker risk sending Jose or Timmy up there hoping Roy's too worried over his family falling apart to notice, also trusting Billy can't follow Turner's expert pitching advice, "I know he's small, Billy. Just pitch lower"; thus allowing the red-hot Engelberg (who began the chain of events leading to the end of Turner's marriage) to have a chance at winning the game?
Either way, the Bears are drinking to it, thus eliminating Josh Hamilton from the post-game events.
Brian ("Theklaffer") said: "I also can't think of a situation, other than maybe to get to the pitcher, when I'd walk someone intentionally with 2 outs. And even then, it would probably have to be late in a game when the other team's bench is very thin. But even then, aren't you better off trying to pitch to the #8 hitter very carefully, not giving him anything to hit? If you happen to walk him, you are no worse off. And if he swings at a bad pitch, you are much better off."
ReplyDeleteIt depends. For example, in a close game where you want to force the other team's hand and have them pull their starter, you might opt to intentionally walk the #8 hitter now, so you get their bullpen next half-inning. (And, of course, this strategy only applies to NL games.)
Tonight is a good example of when this could come up. Let's say it's the 7th inning and the Phils have runners on 1st and 2nd with two out and the #8 hitter (Ruiz) coming up. If I'm Bruce Bochy, I walk Ruiz and force the Phillies to make a decision. A) Ruiz is a .300 hitter with a (roughly) .400 OBP. B) Halladay is the best pitcher in the league, so if I can get him out it increases my chances. C) The Phillies bullpen sucks, so if I can get them on the mount, it increases my chances. D) The Phillies bench isn't doing well (though there is the potential for the long ball.)
For all those reasons - especially getting Halladay off the mound - I'd take my chances if I were the Giants manager in that situation.
Beyond something like that, though, I'm having a real hard time thinking of a situation where I'd issue the IBB with runners already on 1st and 2nd.