Well, I knew I was going to write about the "Future of Sports" panel I was on in St. Louis Monday evening, a panel wonderful moderated by my friend Michael MacCambridge and featuring three of my heroes: Bill James, Bob Costas and Gerald Early. It really was great. There were about 700 people there (I'm told -- I'm terrible at estimating crowds) and the discussion there will supposedly be on line within the week, and if you can't wait for that you can find some fine reviews of it here, here, here and here.
It was a terrific panel discussion, I thought, probably the best I've ever been on. There were so many things to think about. But, as is obvious to anyone who has been on a few panels, there are limitations to the genre. I think the biggest is that you sometimes get bogged down on one question that nobody is especially interested in -- for instance, we spent a good 15 minutes discussing whether boxing will die for an audience that pretty decisively believes boxing is dead already. And the answer could have been summed up like so:
No, it absolutely won't die entirely.
We eventually got there, and there absolutely were some gems along the way*, but panel discussions, even the best of them, sometimes feel like giant boats and it takes a long while to make a turn.
*Listening to Gerald Early talk about boxing is like listening to Charlie Parker play saxophone.
In any case, I was going to write about the panel discussion but because it seems well covered and because you will be able to see it for yourself if you so choose, I have taken a turn. Instead, I'll be posting a series of essays about my car ride with Bill James. You may know that Bill lives in Lawrence, Kan., and I live in Kansas City, and so we figured the smartest thing we could do was drive to St. Louis together. It's about a four hour drive each way. That means I got to spend eight hours just in the car with the man I consider the best and most influential baseball writer ever.*
*Well, Roger Angell and Red Smith among many others were pretty good too, and Henry Chadwick and Jerome Holtzman among many others were pretty influential too -- Bill is just my personal choice and I felt that way before we became friends.
I'd say in the eight-plus hours (terrible traffic in St. Louis) we had about 90 seconds of silence combined. This is largely because I'm a blabbermouth, and because when I have someone like Bill stuck in the car with me I want to constantly pick his brain. I love the way Bill's mind works. So since we were the only ones in the car, and there was nobody filming or recording, I thought I would riff off a few of the things we talked about. I hope to have three or four essays up before the end of the day.
I should say as a disclaimer that these essays are not necessarily Bill's opinion at all or what we talked about -- in fact, all of these essays would probably go with the "This movie was inspired by real and actual true and factual facts" tag. I was driving there in the rain and Bill drove home as if flurried snow and we were just talking about stuff and none of the conversation was meant for the record. So these essays were sometimes inspired by a single word or thought.
But ... hey ... we're all just friends on a drive ...
Circle me DiMaggio driving from San Francisco but more talkative.
ReplyDeleteYou probably could've auctioned off the back passenger seats for a pretty penny and made Second Harvest (I think that's your food shelf?) some serious dough. I would've paid $1000 (followed by my wife running your car off the road so she could serve me with divorce papers).
ReplyDeleteCan't Wait!
ReplyDelete"I'd say in the eight-plus hours we had about 90 seconds of silence combined. This is largely because I'm a blabbermouth . . ."
ReplyDeleteQuite often when I'm late I'll say to my wife, "Sorry. I ran into so-and-so."
"Yeah, I know him," she'll say. "That guy can really listen."
Please let us know when (and where) the discussion goes on line.
ReplyDeleteDrew #2, I second the motion. And the notion.
ReplyDelete@GregTamblyn --
ReplyDeleteAnd the emotion!
Here's part of the conversation...
ReplyDelete"So...where's the White Castle at here-"
"Ummm, by the Stuckey's. You know-over near Rolla? I like Stuckey's..."
Dead silence for a few. A sign bragging about the '1.99 DonnyBurger' passes by.
"You ever see Tim Laudner play-?"
"Boy did I. Was like watching my cocker spaniel try to learn banjo. Was tough going."
"Yeah. Spaniels are dumb."
They go by the Donny Burger.
"Did you know Joe Neikro died last year-?"
"Yeah, think I heard that. I used to play foozball with Lance back when I covered the Browns-"
Bill puts on his I-Phone and cranks up the Harry Carey.
Can't wait to listen to the panel discussion when it hits the net. Apparently it included FOUR of my favorites!
ReplyDeleteI am going to be sick.
ReplyDeleteReading the normally fine Joe Pos write about Bill James reminds me of Liberace's endless references to his brother George.
On their best days, Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Benny Franklin, the Rev. Dr. King, and Mama T. in Calcutta weren't as good as Joe Pos claims Bill James to be.
Hell, Conservatives don't love Bonzo Reagan and Sarah Palin buck naked as much as Joe Pos melts when the name Bill James is mentioned. You don't here al Qaeda praising Osama bin Laden in the same way that Joe Pos deifies Bill James.
Teenage girls didn't scream as loudly at Elvis AND the Beatles as Joe Pos does at the site of Bill James.
Even Rob Neyer, who should be waterboarded on sight, isn't as Daddy GaGa over Bill James as Joe Pos.
Fox News miscreants don't praise Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Megyn Kelly's latest GQ pics as much as Joe Pos trumpets every single waking action of Bill James.
This is nauseating.
video forum
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QML4deXw4dY
and the q&a
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-lyMiss8wY