The Poscast this week is our regularly scheduled chat with Michael Schur, executive producer of Parks and Recreation (Entertainment Weekly calls it the smartest show on television). But we did something a bit unusual this week. We divided the thing up into two parts. The first part is us talking about a bunch of stuff -- the Red Sox, Tom Brady, the difference between fans and players, the awesomeness of Chris Paul (more on this in the next day or two) and so on.
The second part, which just went up, is the first ever baseball book fantasy draft. We each chose five baseball books. And then at the end, we both determined, that I picked better than he did.
You can listen to both Poscasts here.*
Or, if you want to just listen this minute to the baseball book draft, you can listen on this handy-dandy player.
*I believe the sound quality -- note the word "sound" before quality -- for these podcasts is improving pretty dramatically. I am now using various pieces of fancy looking equipment, and I think that it no long sounds like I'm in the Lincoln Tunnel (more like the Holland Tunnel now). I'm hopeful that as I actually learn how these pieces of equipment work that the sound will keep on improving to the point where you will actually hear the angels that sing in my office (they sound AWESOME). I appreciate people sticking with it. Then again, I also appreciate the number of people who have written or called in to say that the sound is dreadful and they will never listen again. Hey, I appreciate everybody.
On the Poscast, Michael and I each selected our five favorite baseball books, or our choices for the five best baseball books or something like that ... but the truth is that if I put together a Top 5 baseball book list tomorrow and another one next week and another one in a month, I'm pretty sure that all three lists would be different, maybe even wildly different. I ranked my five favorite baseball books for an excellent Web site called The Browser -- it's not up yet -- and those five are different from the five I chose in the fantasy book draft. I think with baseball books, feelings change all the time, at least for me.
But I will say that probably the most important baseball book to me is one I never put on any of my Top 5 lists. No, it's not this book. And it's not this one either.
The most important baseball book to me is one called Hang Tough, Paul Mather, by Alfred Slote. It is a kids book, or in the language of book people, a "Young Adult" book.*
*I've never quite understood the young adult thing. Isn't a "young adult" a lot like being an "ugly Brad Pitt" or "good hitting Yuni" or "bashful Vitale?" An old adolescent, yes, I an see that one. But young adult? Isn't a 25-year-old a young adult? The only truly young adult I've heard of was Doogie Howser, and now he's playing an old adolescent.
Hang Tough, Paul Mather is about a gifted young pitcher who has leukemia. It is, in my memory, a well-written book with a touching story. You should read it to your baseball-loving 10-year-old. But what I remember even more was the impact the words had on me. I was probably 10 when I read it, and at that time I felt certain that I did not like to read. At that time, reading was work ... and it was hard ... and the Six Million Dollar Man was on TV ... and, no, I didn't want to read.
But Hang Tough ... that didn't count. That is exactly how I thought of it: It didn't count. That wasn't really reading. That was fun. It was about baseball. It was a cool story about a kid who was my age. That wasn't reading. That was something else. READING was trying to get through Uncle Tom's Cabin. READING was trying to decipher olde English words and wirds the auther mispelled on purrposs. READING was stuff about the Incas or the layers of the earth or Taft-Hartley. Man, I did not like READING.
But, Hang Tough, Paul Mather was about as good as watching television. It was interesting and funny and reached down to me. It was about the world I knew or at least the world I wanted to know. After a while, I read other books by Alfred Slote and books by one of my heroes Matt Christopher. And then I started to read autobiographies -- one on Ron Guidry, I remember, one on Bernie Parent, one on Brian Sipe. And then I started to read other books, some of them not about sports ...
And so I fell in love with words without noticing. I now hear kids say that they do not like to read, and I suspect some really don't, but I suspect others would love to read if they found themselves with the right book. Hang Tough, Paul Mather was exactly the right book for me at exactly the right time.
Years later, when I was bored in class, I would scribble out little sports stories. I didn't think of that as writing. I, of course, despised WRITING. But that's a whole other story.
Circle me, the Kid Who Only Hit Homers
ReplyDeleteBang the Drum Slowly
ReplyDeleteThe Universal Baseball Association, Inc.
The Soul of Baseball
The Natural (the unredeemed, Malamud Natural)
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract
In no particular order...
The Southpaw
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I read Robert Montgomery's Iron Mask Series when I was starting Little League, and I felt the same way you felt about Hang Tough. Highly recommended for any Little Leaguer.
ReplyDeleteEvery boy sabermetrician's favorite book: The Kid Who Batted 1.000.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a kid it was "Baseball Joe, Pitching Wizard" and others in that series. They were from the early 1900s, and belonged to a relative who had passed. Great books, at least in my memory.
ReplyDeleteI teach high school English, and I get a lot of this from my students. I require them to read a book of their choosing in addition to class READING, and when we go to the library, I always hear about how a few of them don't like to READ. Inevitably, they will confirm that they love Sports Illustrated or whatever or that they read a book this one time, but no, they don't like READING because it's work. Once I know what they read, though, it's usually pretty easy to find a book for them.
ReplyDeleteI was not an avid reader, but I got hooked on Clair Bee's books. He wrote fictional stories surrounding sports.
ReplyDeleteAfter I had read every Alfred Slote book in the local library three times as a kid, I checked that shelf every week for years to see if a new book of his might have shown up.
ReplyDeleteNow I check Joe's blog about five times a day to see if anything new has shown up.
At some point, probably when you are older, you'll even like listening....
ReplyDeleteMade an Amazon list of the 10 books picked:
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I loved Hang Tough, Paul Mather (love when the kid tries to catch him barehand, then realizes it was a bad idea).
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I was angry to see Ball Four stranded in the Green Room so long. It's an amazing take on human nature; they should study that book in 300 Level Psychology Classes.
Ball Four
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Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract
My childhood baseball book*
Moneyball
*Can't remember the exact name, it's probably in a box in Greece somewhere, in my Dad's house.
Mickey Mantle: The Hero that Should Never Have Been
Something really close to that. I devoured that book dozens of times. The Mick was my only sports hero, or any hero, ever. It was him and him alone, then I grew up and realized the whole hero idea is silly. But he will always be the one.
I have two favorite chapters in baseball books:
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_Whatever Happened To The Hall of Fame?_, "Priddy and Rizzuto"
Joe, I had exactly the same experience in the sixth grade where we regularly got 25 at-bats during recess. I discovered John R. Tunis and words at the same time. "Young Razzle" is a book wise beyond its years or the years of a sixth grader who wandered into it. And, "World Series" with the manager's great advice to stay away "from the skirts"? Who could ask for more.
ReplyDeleteFor adults: The Celebrant is a hidden classic.
John Lofflin
The boys books for me were:
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2. Chip Hilton series
3. "Court Clown" by John Carson (basketball story); I read that under the covers with a flashlight late at night and kept waking my kid brother up by laughing too uproariously - still a great read!
The Soul of Baseball
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Moneyball
Faithful
Bo Knows Bo (the man was my hero, what can I say)
No idea what a Slobstopper is but I'm super pumped to hear about it, whatever it may be.
ReplyDelete"Shoeless Joe" by W.P. Kinsella. Not only the basis for one of the best baseball movies ever produced, but also set in Iowa City (where I went to college), complete with accurate landmarks. Double win.
ReplyDeleteAs a librarian and someone who sees this happen often, I completely agree with you, Joe. Frequently it isn't the reading that is disliked, but rather what they're reading. A historic figure in the librarian world (S.R. Ranganathan) once came up with five rules, two of which were: 1)Every reader his/her book, and; 2)Every book its reader. Keep up the great work!
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ReplyDeleteI've often wondered the value of teaching people like Shakespeare in high school classes. Don't get me wrong, I respect him, I've seen plays at the Globe in London and all of that, but i think high schools should cultivate the enjoyment of reading much like you have. I'm not sure where to start. I suppose Fear and Loathing wouldn't be appropriate, but Grisham or Stephen King? You know, something like that. So many of us have to realize after high school....wait, I like to read. It seems like a waste.
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract (either version)
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The Glory of Their Times
This took me back to my grade school library. I was an avid reader and probably read every book in the library that had to do with baseball. I have read and enjoyed Hang Tough Paul Mather, and also enjoyed John R. Tunis and the Chip Hilton series written by the great Clair Bee. (There was a wonderful article about the old Chip Hilton books in SI about 10 years ago. Mr. Bee had written outlines for future books, and Chip eventually moves to Cleveland and becomes a sportswriter.) The Bronc Burnett books by Wilfred Mccormick.
ReplyDeleteMy love of baseball and reading dovetailed at that early age. It was all started for me by Lou Gehrig: Boy of the sandlots by Guernsey Van Riper Jr., a biography focusing on Gehrig's childhood. (It was re-issued about 20 years ago without the "boy of the sandlots" part. Reccomended for any child who likes reading, baseball and history.
There are a couple of books that stick in my memory and I wonder if any of the older BRs know of them-I could not find anything about them on the internet. They took place in a Texas little league, and were probably written in the '50s or '60s. Some of them addressed racial issues, as one was about the experiences of the kid that broke the color barrier in the league, and another was about a boy who moved to Texas from Mexico. They drove home to me at a young age that we are all the same on the inside, and were wonderful baseball books as well. If anyone knows who wrote them of remembers any titles I would love to know.
Brian Sipe has an autobiography?
ReplyDeleteNever Come Back had a big impression on me as a kid. Some rather adult themes in that "young adult" book about a troubled and aging ballplayer.
1. "The Summer Game," or any book by Roger Angell
ReplyDelete2. "How Life Imitates the World Series," or any book by Thomas Boswell
3. "Sandy Koufax: A Lefty's Legacy," Jane Leavy
4. "Prophet of the Sandlots: Journeys with a Major League Scout," Mark Winegardner
5. "When You Come to a Fork in the Road, Take It!" Yogi Berra
You Gotta Have Wa by Robert Whiting. I also like Shoeless Joe, The Natural and the Kid Who Batted 1.000. But I wanted to mention the Whiting book because no one else did.
ReplyDeleteOkay, so I loved the Six-Million-Dollar Man, too, but I also read everything I could get my hands on, including a children's book that I simply cannot find anywhere. It was about a shy boy who finds a baseball that turns out to be a teeny-weeny spaceship. He befriends the aliens inside and works out a plan to return them to orbit. I remember this one particularly because this kid really liked Stan Musial; it was the first time I had ever heard that name. I think the book was one of those Scholastic texts, the kind you could order in school? I know this all sounds crazy . . .but still, I remember the story and remember the kid kept quoting Musial's stats, and remember how he gained his confidence on the field while helping his itty-bitty alien friends get home. Haven't the slightest clue about the title.
ReplyDeleteOff-topic: Also read "Something for Joey" around the same time, and was introduced to Penn State football and Joe Paterno, but didn't realize it at the time. A good book if you want to have a good cry (and from reading the posts here after Poz writes about his family, I know some of you aren't ashamed of that . . .another thing I really like about the readers/posters here).
ReplyDeleteMy favorite baseball book as a kid was "Lank of the Little League" To this day, I have an old beat up copy. Lefty Lank came from a broken home and built his pitching arm by killing squirrels with rocks and would eat them for dinner! No, really. Hey, when you are 10, this seems pretty cool.
ReplyDelete@ Mike Beckwith- That rang a bell, so I looked it up. It is indeed a part of the little league series I was thinking of earlier. I have found a few on the internet, mostly without description, but I know that "Little League Double Play" was one of the books I mentioned above. These were great books.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a kid in the late 1960s, I found an old book of my dad's called "My Greatest Day in Baseball," and it started my love affair with baseball in the first quarter of the 20th century. Johnny Evers on the Merkle game, Walter Johnson on game 7 of the 1924 series, Cy Young on his perfect game, Babe Ruth on his called shot. I still go back and re-read it all the time, one of my most prized possessions.
ReplyDeleteOne of the biggest reasons I'm such a big baseball fan, three reasons actually, were a small stack of books my mom brought home when I was about ten. They were from Duane Decker's Blue Sox series: Starting Pitcher, Third Base Rookie and Rebel in Right Field. Since then I've picked up a few others from the series and handed some over to my kid. I cannot recommend them highly enough, though I'm certain they won't play as well these days as they did when I was younger. (Although they were kind of anachronistic then too...)
ReplyDelete1 - The Brothers K - David James Duncan
ReplyDelete2 - The Celebrant - Eric Rolfe Greenburg
3 – Seven The Mickey Mantle Novel
4- Ball Four - Bouton
5 Big Time Baseball - I was seven it was cool.
Other Sports
The Miracle of Castel D Sangro - Soccer. true story great read.
The Fight -- Mailer does Ali
Loose Balls - The history of the ABA
The Professional - W.C Heinz
Golf in the Kingdom - Michael Murphy a little dated but well worth reading
@KHAZAD ... the integration book you're thinking of, I believe, is "Little League Heroes" by Curtis Bishop. IIRC, that book introduced me to the word "prodigious" because the antagonist was a slugger who wised up at the end and hit a huge home run in the big game.
ReplyDeleteTunis, William Campbell Gault, Duane Decker, Burgess "Stretch Bolton" Leonard, Joe Archibald and Dick Friendlich were all my guys.
1) Bill James' first Historical Abstract was like seeing the light on the road to Damascus for me.
ReplyDelete2) "The Soul of Baseball" made me cry, made me laugh, and made me think to call my dad.
3) "The Glory of their Times" is simply superb in all ways.
4) "Shoeless Joe" was the basis for a great movie and is wonderfully written, albeit perhaps unfilmable as it was.
5) I wish I could remember the name of it, but as a kid I read a book by somebody who had been around for Cobb and Wagner and Ruth. The book must have been old when I was young. Since I can't remember the name, I'll pick one more,
6) "Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame?" is an excellent book, not just on baseball, but on presenting reasonable arguments.
-- Anything by Bill James, especially the early Abstracts.
ReplyDelete-- The Bronc Burnett series
-- Ball Four
-- Universal Baseball Association, J. Henry Waugh, Proprietor
-- The Red Smith Reader
Like Joe, my list would probably be completely different if I posted this tomorrow.
The sound is still a problem. I have my computer volume at 100% and still can not hear you clearly.
ReplyDelete"The boys of summer".
ReplyDeleteThe Bullpen Gospels by Dirk Hayhurst
ReplyDeleteNo love for the Bill James Guide to Baseball Managers?
ReplyDeleteThere is a rather gigantic difference between most successful and "best". Michael Lewis is extraordinarily successful but labeling him as a legendary author seems a tad premature, and I've heard it from multiple sources which is troubling. More to the point I've read his books and while they're certainly interesting and readable they don't really strike me as objective and invincible masterpieces.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite baseball book is Three Nights in August by Buzz Bissinger
ReplyDeleteReally takes you into the minutia and nitty gritty of game. Analyzing and going in detail about the moves of Tony LaRussa chief of the pitching change indians is amazing
My favorite baseball book is Cait Murphy's Crazy '08: How a Cast of Cranks, Rogues, Boneheads, and Magnates Created the Greatest Year in Baseball History
ReplyDeleteso much fun to read. just an amazing story on baseball's younger days. and it really makes me wish manny ramirez would wrestle an alligator.
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ReplyDeleteJoe, I listened to the baseball book fantasy podcast, and was very interested to hear that you selected Summer of '49. I wonder if you have ever read Bill James' review of that book. It was an eye opener for me, and the first thing I read by Bill James that made love Bill James.
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