On this week's Poscast -- which, I think (can't promise, but think), actually recorded well enough that you will be able to hear both participants -- Parks and Recreation czar Michael Schur and I talk a lot about what's wrong with the All-Star Game. If you don't have time to listen to the whole thing,* I can probably sum up the many problems with one word: Everything.
*Though, there could be prizes involved. I'm just saying.
The biggest issue, we both think, is that the All-Star Game isn't about anything anymore. It's an exhibition that claims to count. Or it's a game that counts except that nobody who participates in it cares. The All-Star Game knew what it was once -- it was an exhibition game featuring the best players as voted by the fans. It didn't mean anything, no, but it DID mean something because in the All-Star Game's best days America still had an enthusiasm for meaningless but interesting events. Match races. Battle of the sexes. Battle of the Network Stars. Non-championship bouts. Grudge matches. That sort of thing. The All-Star Game was an event because, well, when else were you going to see the best players in the world?
That was then. Now if you have the baseball package, or you just watch Baseball Tonight, you can see the best players in the world EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. We are overloaded. Our attention must be wooed and recruited and captured. The idea that our nation would be riveted by a consolation game, much less an exhibition game for nothing at all, seems as quaint and old fashioned as the rotary phone.
Baseball has changed too: With Interleague play, and with free agency such a part of the game, the specialness of a one-time battle between leagues is gone. It used to be that the only time you would see Pete Rose face Jim Palmer or Reggie Jackson against Steve Carlton was in the All-Star game or, if the season rolled right, the World Series. The game sparked the imagination the way blockbuster movies with many different stars like Towering Inferno* sparked the imagination.
*Steve McQueen! Paul Newman! Bill Holden! Fred Astaire (huh?)! O.J. Simpson! Robert Wagner! Faye Dunaway! Richard Chamberlain! What happens when you put them all in the same building and set the building on fire? Magic, that's what.
Well, the imagination doesn't exactly soar when wondering how New York's Derek Jeter will do against Philadelphia's Roy Halladay. They have faced each other 104 times already. Even such seemingly distant players like Tim Lincecum and Jose Bautista have already faced each other in real games (Bautista is one-for-three with two strikeouts).
There's something else too: The All-Star Game process is now so convoluted that you don't even know who to blame. And, in my mind, blame has always been one of the core joys of the All-Star Game experience. Think about this: Every year for as long as I can remember, the weeks leading into the All-Star Game overflowed with dueling newspaper columns:
1. How could the fans be so dumb as to vote for Player X?
2. The All-Star Game is for the fans and so if they want Player X he is the right choice.
I happen fall on the side of argument 2, but that's just me. The way I see it, if the fans vote for Charlie Sheen to start in the outfield, Michele Bachmann at short and Rupaul at first base, then baseball should do its best to make that happen. I think the game is for the fans, completely and entirely, and I wish they would have fans vote DURING THE GAME on who to pinch-hit, who to bring in from the pen, when to hit and run and so on. The complaint I've heard that the fans should have voted Jhonny Peralta over Derek Jeter at shortstop because he had a much better first half feels to me like arguing that a kid should serve broccoli at a birthday party instead of cake because broccoli is s better for you. Jhonny Peralta has been a mostly dreadful player for three years. It's wonderful he had a great 76 games this year. But why does that obligate me to vote him into the All-Star game? Arguing that fans were somehow misguided for choosing the most popular player of the generation to start at shortstop over Jhonny Peralta seems to me like an anti-argument, like arguing that the All-Star Game should not be fun at all.
The trouble is, the All-Star players are not picked by the fans. Not really. The fans pick the starters, yes. But then there's this elaborate player-picking system that involves the players themselves, the managers of last year's World Series teams, the managers of the players themselves, the "every team has to have a representative" rule, various mathematical formulas, three Tibetan monks, a baseball card dealer in Wisconsin, five corpulent porpoises and Jaye P. Morgan from the Gong Show. For instance, this year I actually have a major gripe: I cannot believe that Andrew McCutchen was not selected for the All-Star Game. It seems to me the most remarkable snub I can ever remember.
And I have no idea who to blame for this. I don't know who to call. I don't know where to file my complaint.
First, I think if I were listing my 10 essential players for this year's All-Star game -- and these are just the players who I think would make the game fun -- I might choose these:
1. Jose Bautista
2. Jose Reyes
3. Andrew McCutchen
4. Justin Verlander
5. Roy Halladay
6. Matt Kemp
7. Adrian Gonzalez
8. Jered Weaver
9. Mariano Rivera
10. Craig Kimbrel
Obviously, if you asked me in 10 minutes my list would be somewhat different. But I would choose Bautista because his at-bats are hold-your-breath moments. Reyes is the most exciting player in the game. Verlander is an event now -- like Pedro was in his prime or Dwight Gooden in '85 -- and Halladay is the best pitcher going and thrilling to watch in a very different way. Kemp is awesome and soon might find his paycheck bouncing so I'd like to get him to the All-Star Game. Gonzalez was one of the five best players in the game for a couple of years and nobody noticed because he played his home games in a ballpark roughly the size and dimensions of Alcatraz. Jered Weaver is having a stunningly good year again and nobody is noticing again. And, while I have often ranted about the use of closers in the regular season, the All-Star Game seems to me the place where they are most vivid. I want to see The Great Rivera facing the best hitters in the National League to close out the game in the ninth (though, of course, that's not how it works since the best players have long been benched). And Atlanta's Craig Kimbrel is my favorite young closer at the moment because he's a wonderful freak show, a high-octane, strike-em-out, walk-em, never-allow-a-homer thrill ride.
*I realize, though, that some are not as enthralled by the shaky save.
In any version of my list, Andrew McCutchen would be in the Top 5. First off, he might be having the best season in the National League. If you combine Fangraphs WAR and Baseball Reference WAR, the Top 5 looks like this:
1. Andrew McCutchen, 9.8
2. Jose Reyes, 9.5
(tie) Matt Kemp, 9.5
4. Ryan Braun, 8.3
5. Shane Victorino, 7.7
Obviously, WAR is not everything. But McCutchen is in the Top 10 in: On-base percentage, walks, doubles, extra bases hits and stolen bases. His defensive numbers are fabulous. As an all-around player, at the moment he's about as good as it gets. The midseason award concept is goofy (though Michael and I do our midseason awards this week) but McCutchen is about as worthy as anybody in the league for MVP, I think.
Thing is: As a STORY he's even better. McCutchen was one of the best young players in baseball before the year began, though I suspect few across the country knew it since he plays in Pittsburgh. Now, though, the Pirates are shocking everybody by actually winning games. They are a couple of games over .500, and as you know the Pirates have not finished above .500 since Charles and Diana separated. They are in actual contention in the National League Central. Maybe it's a fluke. Maybe it won't last. But maybe it will, and this is the very height of baseball happiness, a great and long suffering baseball town is finally in it, led by a brilliantly gifted 24-year-old centerfielder who can do everything. If the All-Star Game doesn't celebrate that, well, why even HAVE the All-Star Game.
But McCutchen is not in the game. The fans didn't vote for him -- OK, I get that, and you could argue that Matt Kemp is every bit as deserving as a centerfielder.
But then the players voted and ... huh? Excuse me? They voted for Jay Bruce, Matt Holliday and Hunter Pence.
Baseball Reference has Jay Bruce with an 0.2 WAR (Fangraphs is kinder and gives him a 1.4 WAR). This means that they calculate he is roughly two-tenths of a win better than a replacement level player. They rank him so low because they estimate that he has been a dreadful right-fielder in 2011 (after being an excellent fielder in 2010). I don't know if that's right. Look, Bruce is a fine player. But McCutchen is better. He's been better over the last two seasons. And he's a lot better this year. McCutchen's on-base percentage is 60 points higher, he has a higher slugging percentage even though Bruce plays half his games in the Great American Bandbox, he's much faster, he plays a most important defensive position and he plays it better. I tweeted that with the players choosing Bruce over McCutchen might give us a hint about the quality of the next generation's color commentators. Michael might want to keep the Fire Joe Morgan template nearby.
Pence and Holliday were moderately less egregious choices -- they are better offensive seasons than Bruce. But neither one is having as good a year as McCutchen either. And neither one is a central figure in one of baseball's best stories.
So, in my mind, the players completely whiffed. I can blame them. But, wait: Manager Bruce Bochy had an outfield spot. He could have chosen McCutchen. And instead he chose Carlos Beltran. Wow, this is a tough one for me. I LOVE Carlos Beltran. Anyone who reads this site knows that. My appreciation for Carlos is more or less boundless, and every night I check in on the Mets at least once to see how he's doing. His comeback year has given me almost as much joy as good report cards from my own children.
Still, I have no early idea how a manager could look at the year Carlos Beltran is having and the year Andrew McCutchen is having and choose Beltran. I just don't. There is, best I can tell, nothing that Carlos at this point in his career does as well as McCutchen. In fact, McCutchen at 24 reminds me quite a lot of Beltran at 24, which was 10 years and a dozen injuries ago.
The All-Star Game is lacking one of the most exciting players in the game, a blossoming superstar, a player who had as big an impact on the first half as anyone ... and I'm not even sure how it happened. And that's the point. When I tweeted about the absurdity of the players' choices, the thoughtful and most excellent pitcher Brandon McCarthy agreed but pointed out that the players tend to vote quickly and without easy access to stats. That rings true for me. The managers decisions, meanwhile, are the confused mess that the game is -- managers are not looking for the most exciting players, the most popular players, the most fun players but instead for the players who might fill a role in case the game goes awry. This is because, as you know, this time it counts.*
*That's why the Royals All-Star selection this year is Aaron Crow -- a rookie middle reliever who has been hit-lucky in the first half and so has a 1.37 ERA over 39 innings, an ERA that almost certainly will not sustain. He is also zero-for-two in save opportunities. You know, I'm all for every team having a representative, but not if managers are going to take rookie middle relievers who are probably having fluky half season. That doesn't add one ounce of interest to the game, not even for the local fans. Plus, Crow reaching the All-Star Game will probably convince the Royals to keep him in the pen even though they already have a closer, and even though they took him in the first round two years ago and paid him a lot of money on the hope that he might become a high-end starter.
Andrew McCutchen isn't in the All-Star Game and I can't even say why. Michael says it best: It feels like a clerical error or something. Clerical errors are no fun at all ... which gets us back to the All-Star Game problem in the first place.
Circle me John Hudek.
ReplyDeleteWell, I generally agree, Joe, but as far as the fans voting players in, it's weighted in the favor of the more populous metropolitan areas. Which isn't too bad in typical years like this one where the Yankees, Phillies, and Red Sox are on top, but will be horrible in those oddball years when the A's, Pirates, and Mariners are on top (humor me for a moment).
ReplyDeleteIn those years, there just won't be any impetus for fans to simply not vote along the lines they're voting now -- stuff the ballot with their favorite players. And if that's Derek Jeter, who has been both horrible and hurt, then so be it?
That's the issue with the voting process as much as the odd selection process post-fan voting. As a Royals fan, there is just nothing I'll ever be able to do to get Alcides Escobar voted in ahead of Derek Jeter. He could play 10 more season and be outhit and outplayed by Escobar, and Escobar would never beat Jeter in a fan vote, and be subject to the flawed managerial selection process you already pointed out.
I know this is cynical, but isn't it possible that this is convoluted on purpose, so no one knows who to blame and therefore no one is accountable?
ReplyDeleteSeems possible.
As a teen, I always took my all-star vote as serious as you were supposed to take "real voting" as an adult.
ReplyDeleteI spent days looking at the stats (back in the day where you got the stats once a week in the sunday paper) and voting for who was "most deserving," not "most popular" or any of the hometown nine.
You know, I saw McCutchen a couple weeks ago, when my dad, my brother and I made a trip out to Pittsburgh (everything you've heard about PNC Park is true, by the way). Cutch came up in the bottom of the first, batting cleanup, with a man on second and two runs already in. You should be able to figure out from that information that nobody was out. So, first pitch, what does he do? SACRIFICE BUNTS. The cleanup hitter! In the first inning! With nobody out! I was incensed, but hey, the Pirates won. I don't bring that up for any reason, other then to get that off my chest, and to say that yeah, Cutch should be there. He should at least be one of the Final Five.
ReplyDeleteThere is no way to get the perfect team. Fans, players, writers, and managers are all flawed.
ReplyDeleteConsider the fact that Mccutchen did not win the fan vote, or the player vote, nor was he picked by the manager. Then MLB.com came up with 5 players for the final player voting and he was not one of the 5! That's 4 different levels of epic fail.
That being said, you can't have it both ways dude. You like the fan voting and Jeter for shortstop is OK because Peralta or Cabrera or Ramirez have not been great in other years (I am sure that your Jeter infatuation has nothing at all to do with this) Although it does not affect the omission of Mccutchen, it is voting like this that helps keep players like him out. Personally, I don't like the fact that two thirds of the AL starters are determined by the teams having the biggest population. I cannot remember the year, but there was one year when an all star selection had not even played (due to injury) since early April.
I think we should have an all star week, with a three game series. The fan voting determines the starters of the first game, and let them vote on the pitcher as well as the closer. Players and managers would choose the starting lineup for game 2, and baseball writers would choose game 3. Offensive starters would be guaranteed 5 innings, and if a player was voted a starter in all 3 votes, he would start all three games. If the starting pitcher were the same, then the other votes runners up would start for those games. The manager could change the starting pitching order, so that a pitcher who pitched on the last day of the first half, but was voted in, could start the third game. You could expand the roster to 40 if need be, and every player could still make an appearance without having the crazy musical chairs substitutions in only one game. There might even be a little strategy involved as to when the players got their appearances, and how much time they got. I think it would be fun.
Seems like McCutcheon is getting the shaft.
ReplyDeleteBut as an Astros fan, please let me ask that you not blame Hunter Pence for this, or take from this the idea that having a guaranteed representative from every team is a bad idea.
Look, the Astros have been good before and they'll be good again. But in 2011, one of the few reasons keeping me and the rest of the Houston faithful from shutting baseball down for the year and turning our collective attentions to the latest HBO series or the Hollywood megablockbuster this summer is the all-star season being posted by Hunter Pence.
If you're gonna worry about Pittsburgh this year, you should be worrying about them most years. Please throw the beleaguered fanbase a bone, you know what I mean?
If Pittsburgh 1992-2010 and Houston in 2011 isn't winning their division, can't you at least give their fans the satisfaction of seeing their most favored player participate in the Midsummer Classic?
It is as you say a bit difficult to figure out exactly what an All-star nod might signify these days. But as long as you've got the rule that every team gets an All-Star, it does mean that the selected player, at the very least, was the best player on his team.
Always love your stuff Joe, but in this one it seems like you make a great point in the first half (popular selection, not merit-based selection, is what the ASG is all about) and then spend the rest of the piece contradicting that argument.
ReplyDeleteMcCutchen will have his time in the All-Star spotlight. Dye was voted in as a Royal. Longoria was as a Ray; Bautista, a Blue Jay. The big city fans have shown to eventually come around to small market players who have sustained success. Hopefully he'll be able to get in before he's a Yankee/Red Sox/Angel.
Let's go back to having the benches chosen by the League Presidents!
ReplyDeletePence deserves to be in, but that doesn't justify the rule about every team being represented. There have certainly been years when nobody from the Royals or Pirates should have been selected during their runs of futility.
ReplyDeleteI'm just happy McCann is finally getting a start. He's only been the best catcher in the NL for five years.
"But as long as you've got the rule that every team gets an All-Star, it does mean that the selected player, at the very least, was the best player on his team."
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how often that's NOT true, including this year with the Royals. In the past, sole representatives were usually picked by the managers, and often they were looking for a utility infielder or extra arm. Or, as in the case of KC and Crow, the selection was made based on eye-popping numbers drawn from a small sample (an empty .320 batting average or--as in this case--a 1.37 ERA).
Nevertheless, I strongly agree with the every-team-should-have-a-player rule. When I was a kid, I was a San Diego Padres fan (still am, sadly). From 1969 to about 1973, the team was major league only in the sense that they wore that red, white, and blue silhouette patch on their shoulders. They were consistently terrible, even for an expansion team, and played deadly baseball in a cavernous stadium in front of 7,500 or so people.
This was years before ESPN, so the San Diego Padres simply didn't exist outside of San Diego County. Their players were only rarely featured on This Week in Baseball, and even then it was usually only in the anonymous supporting role of watching Johnny Bench hit baseballs over their heads. My relatives in New England (Red Sox fans all) were only vaguely aware of the team's existence, and could certainly not name a single Padres player.
If no Padres had been selected to the All Star team, I think I would have concluded that my team truly didn't matter and, therefore, my fandom didn't matter either. I wonder now if the resulting feeling of second-class citizenship might have soured me on Major League baseball, at least to a degree.
And, yeah, my relatives in New Hampshire groaned when Chris Cannizzaro or Nate Colbert or Cito Gaston walked to the plate. But at least I could point to that brown-and-yellow clad image on the screen and say to my cousins, "that guy's on MY team!"
Please don't take that away from the current generation of nine-year-olds, or underestimate its importance.
Isn't the reason to take Beltran over McCutchen the same as Jeter over Peralta?
ReplyDeleteI really don't get the every-team-has-to-have-a-player rule. I never tuned into the game to see Scott Cooper.
ReplyDeletethe rule i'd like to see is fans vote on cf, rf and lf because that only makes sense and yet doesnt happen in this nor in gold glove voting sigh
ReplyDeleteNow you know the mind of the massive-headed Bochy, which we in Sf have to live with. Beltran: vet. McCutchen: unproven.
ReplyDeletePopular alternate explanation: Bochy wants to woo Beltran, who has a no-trade clause.
I believe the mind of Bochy explanation is correct.
For what it's worth, there were some comments from Bruce saying, basically, that the timing of the vote (I gather the players voted quite a while ago) had a lot to do with his selection as he was looking great at the end of May, but that, overall, he didn't really feel like he deserved it.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, good article.
ReplyDeleteBut I completely disagree with you on the Jeter/Peralta argument.
"Still, I have no early idea how a manager could look at the year Carlos Beltran is having and the year Andrew McCutchen is having and choose Beltran. I just don't. There is, best I can tell, nothing that Carlos at this point in his career does as well as McCutchen."
Sub in the names Derek Jeter and Jhonny Peralta. If it's about career, as you claim with Jeter, then shouldn't the choice be Beltran?
Now, I agree that maybe there's a difference between a managerial selection and a fan selection, and I'm not for taking the vote away from the fans. But to me, it's just clear that they missed it. Better luck next time. Let's not belabor the point too much.
All of this is why I'm at the point where I don't want to necessarily see my hometown team overly represented. I'm just as happy for the Red Sox to stay home and get some rest and prepare for the 2nd half run.
ReplyDeleteI've felt like this for a while, but even more so after Wakefield made it - and then didn't take the field at all. Then why have the game?
I'm not sure what the answer is. I like having a player from each team, and still watch the game and root for the American League, but it still feels broken.
I think the biggest issue is the $$. It's the same in each sport - basically a joke - though I think Hockey has the best game.
First, I think we need to decide if it's an exhibition or if it counts. If it absolutely counts, then baseball has to find a motivator for the players. If it is an exhibition, then call a spade a spade, and play it as such.
Joe, everyone knows Bachmann can't hit lefties...
ReplyDeleteJust a weird, goofy note about that Fangraphs WAR + B-Ref WAR chart that Joe posted, which has McCutchen at 9.8 and Reyes at 9.5: for almost literally the entire season, Fangraphs WAR for Reyes has been well above Reyes' B-Ref WAR. The reason for this is, of course, the way each site calculates defensive WAR.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how B-Ref calculates defensive WAR, but like 40 games into the season, B-Ref *already* had Reyes at a -1.0. That is mind-blowingly bad and he was on pace for about a -4.0 defensive WAR, which is -0.8 worse than Adam Dunn has had in any season. He's since, in the minds of B-Ref, improved his defense enough to where he is now -0.5 overall. This seems insane to me because it says that Reyes, for the first quarter of the season, was historically bad at defense but for the next 40 games, he's basically been as good as vintage Omar Vizquel out there.
I mean, I watch Reyes on a daily basis. He's about an average defender and probably gets to more balls than most because of his speed. There's been no discernible difference in how he's played defense all year. I know defense is really tricky to measure, but Reyes' B-Ref dWAR has opened my eyes a little.
Corpulent is one of those words that just makes me laugh.
ReplyDeleteMy Mom still has a rotary phone and when our 11-year-old son has a sleepover at her house he calls us at least twice. Solely, I think, so he can use the rotary phone. If we can figure out how to make the All-Star game fun like that...
Dark Side of the Mood
I heard this on ESPN radio today so it's not my idea but I did sort of agree with the statement:
ReplyDelete"If the game really counts then move it to Wednesday night with the prior Monday and Tuesday off days as part of All-Star break.
This will allow nearly any starting pitcher to be able to start or appear in any All-Star game since they will have at least 2+ off-days since their last start or appearance."
The fact that Jason Verlander may not start for the AL this year or even pitch an inning because he will no doubt get the start on the Sunday prior to the All-Star game really sucks. The MLB schedule for 2011 has some teams are not playing again until Friday - Why not make it that way for every team (unless a make-up game must be played on Thursday) giving teams a longer All-Star break by one day? Makes sense to me. I think the MLB schedule makers can find a way to add one more off-day to the All-Star game break with little difficulty.
I too think that Andrew McCutchen should have already made the NL team (and I believe that the NL will still find a way to get him on the squad by next Tuesday) but they got it right by putting the Pirates Joel Hanrahan on the NL AS roster. He has been vital as the Buccos closer so far this year - I would argue that he's been a bit more valuable than Cutch to the teams success so far in 2011.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Kevin Correia's 11 total wins so far and 9 of them on the road is not getting him on the NL AS roster so far. If he gets his 12th win in his next start how often has there been a 12-game winner at the AS break not get selected?
Kevin Correia has an ERA+ of 100 and a WHIP of 1.230. He's a perfect example of why wins are a bad way to judge a pitcher. He's a league average pitcher, which is fine. A league average pitcher is valuable. A league average pitcher is not an All-Star caliber player, however.
ReplyDeleteBiggus Rickus - I am in agreement with you about Kevin Correia. I should have said in my post that I didn't think Correia should make the NL AS team but that still begs the question...Has a 12-game winner at the All-Star break ever not been selected?
ReplyDeleteKemp-vs-McCutchen arguments now are as fun as Dawson-v-Murphy arguments were in the 1980s. Kemp is on my team, so I pick him. But the last time I saw the Dodgers play the Pirates Kemp wacked two doubles into the center field - except McCutchen ran them down and caught them. The only hit Matty got to center was a home run.
ReplyDeleteI agree that McCutchen should be there. In fact, I touched on this last week before the results came out.
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N MarkW - That's a good question. If it is a first it's good sign. Maybe the tyranny of the win is slowly going away.
ReplyDeleteI don't see the Beltran-McCutchen situation as comparable to the Jeter-Peralta situation at all. Beltran has been a very good outfielder, at times great, for a while. Jeter, on the other hand, will go down as one of the all-time greats at shortstop. Going by baseball-reference.com, at short (at least in the modern era) you've got Wagner, ARod (depending on how you count him), Ripken, and Jeter. I give the fans a pass on including anyone who's in the top 5 or so at their position, sort of regardless of how bad their season is.
ReplyDeleteJust wait until Friday, when players start pulling out of the OAS for various reasons. McCutchen will probably be on the roster by Saturday.
ReplyDeleteIt is true that Beltran/McCutchen is not the same as Jeter/Peralta -- I'm a little surprised that so many of Joe's BRs fell for that -- but not for the reason posited by @drmagoo.
ReplyDeletePeralta is an OK player who's having a terrific first half, but not nearly supported by his body of work (this yr, .314/.365/.542; EIGHT YEARS in MLB, .267/.331/.429). No logical thinker would assert that this is who is he really is.
McCutchen, on the other hand, despite MLB network and fantasy baseball and every other available channel of information, is somehow almost anonymous despite his excellent body of work (career .288/.372/.468; '11 .294/.392/.498) -- which along with his youth suggests that this is NOT just SSS gone rampant, but more likely just the next point on the curve heading up.
And I say all that as someone who respects Beltran (past/present) immensely, and is also not exactly a big Jeter rooter.
One more party that can be blamed: the media! I thought I was a big baseball fan but I had absolutely no idea McCutchen was having such a great season...
ReplyDeleteOh, I hate the Yankees, but I have to respect what Jeter has accomplished.
ReplyDeleteMcCutchen deserves to be in, as a player on the rise having a great season, and I don't argue with that at all.
On the other hand, Jeter has his a level where no matter how bad of a season he is, he's a "star," and if fans want to vote for him, I won't complain.
I feel the same way about Pujols, btw, and I'm a Cubs fan. Not that Fielder was exactly a bad choice.
If the populous cities have such a huge advantage why was Ryan Braun the leading NL votegetter? And has been for a few years. Plays for a mediocre team in the Midwest, never won an MVP, rarely on national broadcasts, not part of any big campaign.
ReplyDeleteI think voting for the all-star game has circumvented the small market vs. big market issue because you can vote like 25 times for a player. And that's per email address.
ReplyDeleteSo fans from any team can boost the vote numbers for their players if they get motivated to do so. I know in Detroit there was a call to get more votes for Alex Avila. I think it worked because he was voted starting catcher.
If a relatively small number of fans become motivated, they can pump in lots of votes and change the results.
Joe:
ReplyDeleteYour posterisk about Aaron Crow might be taken to suggest that the Royals don't really deserve an All Star. Alex Gordon is 6th among AL outfielders in WAR (5th if Zobrist is not considered an OF). Of course, the narrative will be from the media that the Royals aren't deserving of an All Star, not that they have a player with a better WAR than Carlos Quentin, Matt Joyce, and Michael Cuddyer who wasn't selected.
I apologize if someone has already noted this, but in his last three seasons (2008-2010) Peralta's WAR (BRef) are 3.6, 0.8, 3.2. Derek Jeter over those same three seasons: 3.2, 6.2, 2.2. Peralta was better than Jeter in two of the past three seasons, and he's been better so far this season. If you just want to maniacally pick the guy with the best career, no matter how old or infirm he is, for the AS game, whatever. But Peralta has not been terrible for three years, and supporting him for the ASG is not a this-half-season-alone decision. And I'm not a Tigers fan.
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ReplyDeletePitching match-ups, explanations, predictions and more....
On a 17-7 run with baseball predictions
Sabathia has twelve wins and he's not going this year. In fact he'll start again on Sunday so it's possible he'll have thirteen.
ReplyDeleteIt's possible that Verlander, Haren, Sabathia and Felix Hernandez will not pitch for AL in All Star Game or even be on the squad. They each started on Tuesday and each will probably start on Sunday. Some of the best arms in the game today will be sitting in the dugout or at home.
ReplyDeleteAgain, why not move the All-Star Game to Wednesday? More of these starting pitchers would pitch a couple of innings in the AS Game with that extra day of rest. Then, make Thursday an off day as well and gear everything back up to 100% on Friday. It's a no-brainer. (Triple A moves their AS game to Tuesday and I could care less about ESPN's stupid show/party in Vegas but they can have it on Thursday if they so choose.)
Moving the AS Game to Wednesday is not my original idea but I'll take credit for continuing to mention this easy change for stodgy MLB folks to consider. It's something that Bud might like as one of his final acts in MLB. Goodnight Bud, back to the Milwaukee car lot old man...
A couple of thoughts:
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a kid, the only way to vote for the All-Stars was on punch cards at the ballpark. I remember attending games with people who weren’t fans, who couldn’t have named 10 players off the top of their heads, who grabbed handsful of cards and voted for players based purely on their favorite team or on how cool their name sounded. Now that we can vote via computer, in theory at least, we should be getting more input from true fans so the voting should be more accurate.
Also, for many years, the complaint was that players should have more of a say in who got to go because obviously the fans had no clue and voted in the wrong people. Now that the players do, the complaint is that neither the fans nor the players nor the managers have a clue of who the best players are. Obviously, only sportswriters know the true measure of a player’s value.
It also seems that the All-Star game was a lot more fun before sportswriters began complaining bitterly every year about how flawed the game is. In fact, the whole reason we have the “now it counts” thing is because sportswriters were so incensed when one game ended in a tie.
Lastly, I see Rupaul as an overpriced, largely ineffective closer rather than a first baseman.
Here is why he did not make it even though he should make it
ReplyDeleteMcCutchen gets alot of his value from a high OBP (.393) and his defensive WAR (1.4), which is 2nd in the league. The Giants have only played the Pirates 3 times this year, back in late April and McCutchen went 0 for 13. He has only a .180 career AVG with just 1 HR in 61 ABs against the Giants. So maybe that is why Bochy does not recognize how good he is.
McCutchen is not in the top 10 in HRs, RBIs or AVG. He has not won a Gold Glove and is only in his 3rd year. He has never batted .300, hit 30 HRs nor had 100 RBIs. So I guess he just does not have a great reputation.
His Baseball Reference page shows him with 4.0 WAR last year, which is very good. Yet when I used the Play Index to find the leaders in WAR, it shows him with just 3.7 (good for 26th) among position players.
He also got off to a slow start, batting just .219 in April. Then he hit .275 in May and .347 in June.
Yeah, the real question is, why isn't McCutchen the Pirates' representative? When I see a team with a single representative and that representative is a reliever (like Aaron Crow of the Royals this year or Justin Duchscherer a few years back with the A's, before they turned him into a starter), I usually think, "that's a team that they don't really think deserves any representation, so they're taking a pitcher who likely won't even get into the game." While at least the Pirates' lone representative is a closer, he's still a reliever. Seems weird.
ReplyDeleteAnd while Peralta is probably a better choice than Jeter (although with Jeter back from the DL and likely to reach 3,000 hits before the break, I can understand wanting his presence there), neither is really the most deserving. Asdrubal Cabrera, at the very least, was named a backup, but the two most deserving shortstops in the league are Cabrera and Elvis Andrus.
@ Cyberchao X: The Pirates' Joel Hanrahan has been one of the or maybe THE best closer in the NL so far in 2011. (The Braves' Kimbrell is obviously outstanding also.) It was a no-brainer that Hanrahan would be put on the NL roster by Bochy. You can think what you wish about teams who only get one AS representative but Hanrahan deserves to be on the NL squad regardless of McCutchen's situation.
ReplyDeleteSo now BOTH McCutchen AND Correia are added to the NL squad. Obviously, Cutch deserves the honor but Correia, not so much...If he's chosen to throw an inning or even two watch for the AL hitters to perk up!
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