OK, so I get a lot of mail and email at Sports Illustrated. Some of it leads to fun interviews, such as the one I did a couple of weeks ago with Carl Lewis or the Point After column I did in the magazine this week with Marv Levy. Some of it leads to wild goose chases. Most of the emails, sadly, jump to the junk folder before they are ever opened.
But I got an interesting email the other day from the United States Postal Service. It seems that they are, once again, trying to raise interest in stamp collecting. God bless those guys -- in an era where video games are so realistic that gamers can earn actual purple hearts, in an era when high definition television is so clear that real life is a let down, in an era when you can play God on your phone, watch television on a tablet, print out any photograph ever taken and make perfect pasta every time … they are still clinging to the hope that people will collect tiny pieces of paper with pictures on them. I love stamps. I hope they're right.
In any case, my love of stamps pushed me to actually open the email … and it turns out that they're unveiling a four-stamp series they're calling "Major League Baseball All-Star Stamps." It will feature four players who, according to this release, "were perennial All-Stars and left an indelible impression on the game." That seems a bit repetitive to me … I'm not sure how many perennial All-Stars left an eradicable impression on the game. In any case, they decided to announce the first player as a teaser, I guess. Who would fall for such an obvious marketing ploy?
Me. Right. Exactly. In the email, they announced the first player is Joe DiMaggio. The other three will be announced at a later date.
And, of course, I fell right into it. I immediately wondered: Who will be the other three players on the stamps? And I wondered some more. And some more. And after a while, I decided I just have to know.
So, I did what all the great reporters from Woodward to Bernstein to Rosenthal have done: I put up a poll. This, it turned out, was a complete waste of time because when I put up the poll I was unaware of how United States stamps actually work. I'm going to keep up the poll because I have another related idea -- a Mount Rushmore of baseball kind of idea that someone pitched me on Twitter. But for the purposes of this post, it's useless. Almost nobody on the poll is actually eligible to be on the stamp. I went to the Citizens Stamp Advisory Committee Web page and it turns out there are limitations when it comes to postage stamps. Here are just three that are relevant:
Rule No. 2: No living person shall be honored by portrayal on U.S. Postage.
Rule No. 12: No stamp shall be considered for issuance if one treating the same subject has been issued in the past 50 years.
Rule No. 16: No Brett Favre stamps. He was great, but we're sick of him.
Yes, I was surprised by the last rule too. But, no, it's not pertinent to our discussion here. These baseball stamps will not feature anyone who is still alive. So if you went to the poll and voted for Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Stan Musial, Tom Seaver and so on … well, yeah, that was a wasted vote. Sorry, I didn't know that rule when I put up the poll.
Also, they won't issue a stamp of a player who was on a stamp in the last 50 years. Who would that include? I'm glad you asked -- here's a list of baseball players who have appeared on stamps along with the year the stamps were issued.
Catchers
Roy Campanella (2006)
Josh Gibson (2000)
First base
Jimmie Foxx (2000)
Lou Gehrig (1989)
Hank Greenberg (2006)
George Sisler (2000)
Second base
Eddie Collins (2000)
Rogers Hornsby (2000)
Jackie Robinson (1982)
Shortstop
Honus Wagner (2000)
Third base
Pie Traynor (2000)
Outfielders
Roberto Clemente (1984)
Ty Cobb (2000)
Mickey Cochrane (2000)
Mickey Mantle (2000)
Roger Maris (1999)
Mel Ott (2006)
Babe Ruth (1983)
Tris Speaker (2000)
Pitchers
Dizzy Dean (2000)
Lefty Grove (2000)
Walter Johnson (2000)
Christy Mathewson (2000)
Satchel Paige (2000)
Cy Young (2000)
So the first question is obvious: How in the heck has Joe DiMaggio not been on a stamp? He died back in 1999. I guess it just takes a while to get the momentum going. He was a lock for this foursome, and so the Postal Service did not waste any time in announcing him*.
*If you want to see how the stamp will look, you can go here.
And the second question: Who are the other three?
One is all but certain. Ted Williams will be on a stamp. If anything, he is an even more obvious choice than DiMaggio. He has never been featured on a stamp. He died in 2002. He might have been the greatest hitter in baseball history. He hit two famous home runs in All-Star games (we'll come back to that All-Star Game theme in a minute). And, oh yeah, he was an American hero having flown missions in two wars. He's an absolutely lock.
That leaves two more. And that's where it gets tricky. Every other person I listed in my poll is either still living or has been featured on stamp in the last 50 years. The easy and obvious choices -- Gehrig, Mays, Robinson and so on -- are eliminated from consideration. So I'll list off a few other possibilities and the odds I just set (though please: No wagering):
-- Carl Hubbell (Odds: Even). I feel strongly he will be one of the choices. Hubbell was, of course, a great pitcher. His 1933 MVP season (308 innings, 1.66 ERA, 10 shutouts) is legendary. And his 1936 MVP season isn't far behind (304 innings, 2.31 ERA, 26 wins). He has also never been featured on a stamp. And you figure at least one of the four will be a pitcher. But perhaps the key is that the theme here is "All-Star stamps." I think Hubbell will almost certainly get in because perhaps his most famous achievement happened during the 1934 All-Star Game when he struck out, in succession, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Al Simmons and Joe Cronin.
-- Willie Stargell (Odds: 3 to 1): He was Pops on the We Are Family Pirates. He was one of the great home run hitters of his or any era. He had the sort of leadership skills that I would think appeals to the committee. He should be on a stamp. And, according to Rule No. 3 of the Advisory Committee: "It is an important goal of the stamp program to assure inclusion of the Nation’s diverse population especially women and minorities in choosing stamp subjects." I think he's a strong candidate.
-- Pee Wee Reese (Odds 4 to 1). A Hall of Fame player, a perennial All-Star -- and of course he is remembered for putting his arm around Jackie Robinson. He has an excellent shot.
-- Warren Spahn (Odds: 5 to 1). All those wins -- 363 of them. He died in 2003.
-- Eddie Matthews (10 to 1). One of the more underrated players in baseball history … he hit 500 home runs and was probably one of the five best players in the league each of his first 11 seasons.
-- Harmon Killebrew (Odds 25 to 1). We just lost the Killer, and so it might be too soon. But he was one of the great power hitters of all time and one of the great men in baseball history. His stance was so classic that everyone still stays that the MLB logo is of him, though the artist has said it isn't true.
-- Duke Snider (Odds 25 to 1): Like with Killer, Snider only recently died, which will probably eliminate his chances this go around.
-- Nellie Fox (Odds: 35 to 1). He played in 13 All-Star Games. He died in 1975. He's in the Hall of Fame, he won an MVP award, he was a fine defensive second baseman who wasn't nearly as good a hitter as people thought at the time (no walks, no power), but he did lead the league in hits four times.
-- Kirby Puckett (Odds: 50 to 1). I would doubt it because of some of the things that came out about Puckett after his death. But, hey, Ty Cobb was on a stamp. Puckett appeared in 10 All-Star Games and he was a preposterously lovable player who hit for high averages and made some wonderful catches.
Off the board (but could surprise): Bill Dickey, Ron Santo, Johnny Mize, Ducky Medwick, Arky Vaughan, Charlie Gehringer.
My bet, then, is: Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Carl Hubbell and Willie Stargell, though Pee Wee Reese in particular is an excellent surprise choice.
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Update 1 (11:30 p.m. Eastern): OK, see, I have sources. Really. I do. About four minutes after this post went up, I heard from someone with inside information who would not tell me who are the four players on the stamps but DID tell me that one of the four was not even mentioned above.
And, of course, as soon as I read that my heart sank. I can't believe I missed him.
Bob Feller. Bob Feller. Bobby Feller. Robert Feller. BOB FREAKING FELLER. How could I have missed him? How humiliating! How disgraceful!.
Yes, I am now predicting that Bob Feller is one of the four players on the stamps, along with Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams and, um, I'll go with Willie Stargell though I don't really have a great feel for the fourth. How could I? I missed Bob Feller.
If I hear from baseball that I STILL have not named the fourth player on the stamp, then I give up.
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Update 2 (12:01 a.m Eastern): My source checked back in: It's not Bob Feller either. Apparently there is a rule that a person cannot be on a stamp until he has been deceased a certain amount of time -- I've seen both five or 10 years. So, I'm stumped. It could be a Negro Leagues player like Cool Papa Bell or Oscar Charleston, or a great old-timer like Old Hoss Radbourn, but none of them played in a Major League All-Star Game, which I think is one of the particulars here. It could be Don Drysdale, I suppose. Oh well. Maybe it will come to me overnight.
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Update 3 (Next morning):
Well, this is something new: A live blog about stamps. Based on some suggestions from brilliant readers and my own restless night of sleep, I have three more odds to add:
Larry Doby (Odds: Even): Yes, of course, I should have thought of him. Doby went through many of the same issues as Jackie Robinson, but he has never been on a stamp. He died in 2003 and so he qualifies. He's a seven-time All-Star and was a tremendous player -- he had a legitimate MVP case in 1950, '51 and '52 though he did not win any of those years. I'm thinking he's the guy.
Pete Alexander (Odds 15 to 1): I'm not sure when everybody started calling him Pete rather than the much more regal Grover Cleveland Alexander -- I blame Bill James -- but he was (1) One of the greatest pitchers in baseball history and (2) A notorious drunk. That doesn't spell stamp cover to me, but, it's worth repeating: Ty Cobb was on a stamp.
Don Drysdale (Odds 20 to 1): Probably the best player to appear on the Brady Bunch. He was a ferocious pitcher -- "I hate all pitchers" is the quote tagline for his Baseball Reference page -- and he was also a lovable announcer. I don't think it will be him, but as must be clear by now, I really have no idea what I'm doing here.
I'm now going with: Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Larry Doby and Carl Hubbell with Pee Wee Reese and Warren Spahn just on the outside looking in.
Since I think they will pick a Negro league player, I would guess Cool Papa Bell, perhaps the most famous player who wasn't on the original set.
ReplyDeleteGo Ron Santo!
ReplyDeleteBobby, Ron Santo isn't eligible; the rules are specific that the subject has to be deceased for five years.
ReplyDeleteSadly, Bell never played in an All-Star game, so that could be a problem (sadly, that also might count against the greatest player that hasn't been mentioned yet, the great Shoeless Joe Jackson).
Hmmmm, so Bob Feller is not eligible either, if Joseph is right about the 5-year deceased rule... Joe, how about ANOTHER update? :-)
ReplyDeleteGo Old Hoss!
ReplyDeleteLuke Appling? Didn't see him mentioned, so I thought I'd throw it out there.
ReplyDeleteOld Hoss deserves it for his great Twitter feed.
ReplyDeleteLarry Doby?
ReplyDeleteObviously, it's Frankie Frisch. And his ghost then influenced the USPS to select Chick Hafey and Freddie Lindstrom to be the other two.
ReplyDeleteMy money is on Larry Doby and Carl Hubbell. Other possibilities that have not yet been named include Grover Alexander, Nap Lajoie, Al Simmons, and Three-Finger Brown. My personal vote would be for Old Hoss and MartÃn Dihigo.
ReplyDeleteMickey Cochrane was an outfielder?
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ReplyDeleteOops, I missed him on your list of possible surprises. "The Mechanical Man" would look good on a stamp--veteran, loved his mother, etc.
ReplyDeleteAll these rules to get on a stamp in the good ol'US of A... Now, if the country still can afford Post Offices and a letter carrier or two per/100,000 residents by the end of the year this is a relevant post by Joe. Somehow I don't see how the hell Teddy Ballgame hasn't already been "stamped". That's a travesty.
ReplyDeleteIf it's a slow week for Pete Rose I can see him campaigning for inclusion in this club. When it's explained to Pete that the honoree has to be dead as many as 5 years he'll just go back to hustling his non-stamp crapola.
Lefty Gomez might be another dark horse candidate. He made 7 All-Star teams, and started 5 times.
ReplyDeletebuck o'neil, if we're thinking negro leagues. wonderful speaker and advocate, very good (although probably not "great") player, served in the navy during WW2. died in...what? 2006, so unsure of his eligibility.
ReplyDeleteI'm going with Nap Lajoie and Mordecai Brown.
ReplyDeleteIt's Cal Ripken
ReplyDeleteCircle me Buck
ReplyDeleteThe USPS lost $2 billion in the 2nd quarter of this year. I hope they sell a lot of these stamps.
ReplyDeleteCool Papa did make 7 All-Star appearances.
ReplyDeleteHey Mark, maybe one of them is Len Dykstra!
ReplyDeleteSeriously, these bureaucrats operate on their own logic. They could choose Pete Gray or somebody just to appease a constituency.
It's absolutely clear, since Teddy Ballgame has never been honored, that the USPS has a strong anti-Red Sox bias. That means that they have a pro-Yankees bias. So I'll throw out Thurman Munson as a possibility.
ReplyDeleteOff your poll, I went with Doby, Teddy Ballgame, and Catfish Hunter. There's gotta be a pitcher, and he has a lot of cultural stuff going for him: the avuncular nickname, appeal on both coasts AND in the South, modern baseball's first-ever free agent, and got to play in a lot of World's Series. Also a touch overrated, so he's kind of the perfect postage child of American Baseball in the past 50 years.
ReplyDeleteAndy Messersmith, how quickly they forget.
ReplyDeleteNow that you mention Old Hoss, I hope he gets a stamp just for his twitter updates!
ReplyDeleteDan Quisenberry?
ReplyDeleteReally, Joe, I worry about you. Great post of course. But sleepless night? Over stamps? What happens when something important happens, like when the Snuggie updates its winter collection?
ReplyDeleteCasey Stengel or John McGraw? Both were players although they are not in the HOF for that and neither ever played in an All-Star game (although Casey managed quite a few). They both left an indelible impression on the game.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it is Richie Ashburn, but he did make 5 all-star teams and I think he was a revered announcer in Philadelphia. Might that count towards the "indelible impression" criteria?
If you had to choose one, not mentioned as your top 3, who was significant in his contributions OFF the field, to his community as a role model of sportsmanship, who would that be?
ReplyDeleteGil Hodges? Not a Hall of Famer, but he was a consistent All-Star and he managed the '69 Mets, plus he was a Brooklyn Dodger, which gets him like 100 million bonus points.
ReplyDelete@EdoRiver: Vinegar Bend Mizell?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what this means, but Babe Ruth was actually on two different stamps within the past 30 years. I remembered going to a game at Yankee Stadium where they unveiled the new Babe Ruth stamp sometime in the 90s. Turns out it was 1998 (http://www.mysticstamp.com/viewProducts.asp?sku=3184a).
ReplyDeleteI figure that this most likely means they have changed the rules since then. Although, if it means that they sometimes make exceptions and give someone two stamps, Joe may have to broaden this poll a bit!
Or, the full wording of Rule Number 12 reads: "No stamp shall be considered for issuance if one treating the same subject has been issued in the past 50 years. The only exceptions to this rule are traditional themes such as national symbols and holidays." So it's also possible that Babe Ruth has attained the status of national symbol.
@Stephen... didn't forget Messersmith, nor Dave McNally, who also played through 1975 without a contract, and who purposely didn't reitre until the reserve clause challenge went through. However, Catfish WAS first - a special arbitrator's ruling got him out of Charlie O Finley's madhouse at the end of 1974, and he signed with the Yankees right around Christmas. He was the first.
ReplyDelete> Pete Alexander: I'm not sure when everybody started calling him Pete rather than the much more regal Grover Cleveland Alexander -- I blame Bill James -- but he was (1) One of the greatest pitchers in baseball history and (2) A notorious drunk.
ReplyDeleteTwo things:
1. He was commonly referred to as "Old Pete" at least as long ago as 1929, and probably a good bit longer ago than that. Bill James has added, IMHO, more than anyone else to the understanding of not only baseball itself but also its history, but he didn't happen to contribute this particular tidbit. "On his 1940 Playball baseball card he was referred to as 'Ol' Pete.' In The World Series and Highlights of Baseball, by Lamont Buchanan, published in 1951, the year after Alexander died, on pp. 106–107 the author refers to 'Pete Alexander' and 'Ol' Pete' in a matter-of-fact way, suggesting the nickname was well-known. When he won his 373rd game on August 10, 1929, one newspaper had called him 'old Pete,' indicating that the nickname was in public circulation. (The Scrapbook History of Baseball, by Deutsch, Cohen, Johnson and Neft, Bobbs-Merrill, 1975, p. 131.)"
2. Cobb says Ol' Pete wasn't a drunk, but an epileptic. "Grover Cleveland Alexander wasn't drunk out there on the mound, the way people thought. He was an epileptic. Old Pete would fall down with a seizure between innings, then go back and pitch another shutout." -Ty Cobb ("Cobb", by Al Stump)
Nightfly, of course you're right & "modern baseball" might get you around the Tommy Heinrich situation. Aside from Heinrich, any other Fleetwood Walker's of free agency?
ReplyDeleteI love the Brilliant Readers. Had no idea about Tommy Heinrich. Thanks, Stephen!
ReplyDeleteSatchell Paige
ReplyDeleteIt's Bobo Newsom's birthday today. He qualifies and made a few all star teams...
ReplyDeleteKen Harrelson signed with the Red Sox as a free agent partway through the 1967 season after being released by Charles Finley, so that's at least one in modern baseball.
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Being a free agent only means that you can sign with any team, in Catfish Hunter's case it was because his contract was voided by an arbitrator. The point about Messersmith/Mcnally is that they challenged the reserve clause and won, opening the road for many more players to become free agents.
Phil Rizzuto might be an underdog choice.
ReplyDeleteAlso, what about someone like Sparky Anderson?
We now know Stargell and Doby are choices. Nothing against Stargell, but Ted Williams had darned well better be the fourth.
ReplyDeleteWilliams was the fourth. I still can think of better citizens and ballplayers than Stargell, but at least Teddy Ballgame finally gets on a stamp.
ReplyDeleteWe now know Stargell and also Doby tend to be choices. Absolutely nothing towards Stargell, yet Ted Williams had very nicely had better be the fourth.
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