One of the sports things that drives me crazy is when a television broadcaster will stick with a point despite the obvious evidence. This happens in football a lot. An announcer will say something like, "The quarterback didn't have anywhere to go with the ball there," or "That was a an incredible block by the fullback." Then the replay will come on, and it will clearly show a receiver running open or that the fullback totally whiffed on his block. But the announcer will not acknowledge it. He will ignore what everyone is actually watching on television and keep saying what he had been saying. It's like that Marx Brothers line*: Who are you going to believe, me or you lying eyes?
*Actually uttered by Chico Marx, not Groucho as it almost always reported.
Monday night, the pre-game baseball narrative was that Detroit's Justin Verlander and New York's C.C. Sabathia would lock up in a pitching duel for the ages. There was every reason to hope for this. Verlander is coming off a fabulous season, a season where he will definitely win the Cy Young Award and might win the MVP. Sabathia has already won a Cy Young Award, back in 2007, and by various numbers he was as good or better this year for the Yankees. They are both the sorts of pitchers we media types lovingly call "aces" and "horses" and so Monday night was must-watch-TV.
Unfortunately, the hope for dueling perfect games ended early. Verlander gave up two runs in the first inning, and Sabathia was even shakier, walking three in the first, another in the second, another in the third, he needed double plays in each of the first three innings just to minimize the damage. Sabathia was so shaky, in fact, that he got yanked in the sixth inning -- and really it did not seem to make much sense to even send him out there for the sixth -- and nobody could view his performance as anything but a disappointment.
Verlander, though, rebounded from his first inning troubles with a a dazzling display of pitching. Nobody in the world can do what Verlander does -- throw 100 mph, mix in a dazzling curveball, throw 99, toss a devastating slider, throw 101, all for strikes. People always want to argue about the most exciting player in baseball -- Jose Reyes gets that tag most of the time these days, Matt Kemp certainly has his supporters, Jacoby Ellsbury, Robbie Cano and so on -- but it seems to me that Verlander is the most exciting player in the game by a landslide. Satchel Paige famously said that while he never threw an illegal pitch, he did throw pitches that haven't been seen in his generation. That's Verlander. You never know what he will do next.
And, with Sabathia's early exit from the narrative, well, everyone was counting on Verlander to save the story line. And it sure felt like nobody wanted to let go. When he froze Nick Swisher with a curveball in the fourth, you would have thought that he had won the game right then and there. When he struck out the side in the fifth -- Jorge Posada, Russell Martin and Brett Gardner -- you would have thought that he had recreated Carl Hubbell's All-Star moment. When he threw 99 to whiff Curtis Granderson in the sixth, you would have thought he had reversed the rotation of the earth.
I actually got a message from a Brilliant Reader at some point in the seventh inning asking if I had reconsidered Verlander for MVP. This was odd for three reasons. One, I've never said who I voted for MVP -- and I'm pretty sure I made it painstakingly clear that I thought Verlander had a great year and I considered him a serious MVP candidate. Two, even more obvious, you can't reconsider your MVP vote based on postseason performance.
But three was the big one: Up to that point, Verlander had pitched six innings and allowed two runs. Even if you ignore No. 1 and No. 2 -- THAT was supposed to make me reconsider Verlander as an MVP? Six innings, two runs? Of course, by the time I actually saw the message, Verlander had given up two more runs -- a walk, a hit-by-pitch and a double by Brett Gardner scored those two runs. That made seven innings, four runs. Sure: Can you send me back my MVP ballot?
This was a disappointing start by Verlander -- I don't really see how you could see it any other way. Sure, he had dazzling moments. Sure, he struck out 11. Sure, he was fun to watch. He's always fun to watch. And anytime a pitcher in 2011 goes eight innings, you tip your cap. But when a pitcher gives up four runs in eight innings (which is what Verlander did), he usually loses. Since 2001, pitchers who go eight innings and give up four runs in the regular season are 44-86. You want the stat of the day? In the history of the postseason, before Verlander, pitchers who allowed four runs in eight innings were -- get ready for it -- 1-14.
And yet, it sure seemed like everybody kept on clinging to the "what a stunning and amazing performance by Verlander" story line. It seemed like, based on what people on TV were saying and what some people on the Internet were writing, that Verlander had just thrown an 18-strikeout, one-hit shutout against the '27 Yankees.Tom Verducci interviewed Verlander like he was the clear-cut hero. More people messaged me to make their after-the-bell Verlander for MVP case. The announcers and analysts went on and on about the guts, the courage, the fortitude of Justin Brooks Verlander. It was plain weird.
The Tigers are in good position to take out the Yankees now with the not-exactly-beloved A.J. Burnett pitching for New York. Of course, Burnett is the narrative for tonight. If he gives up a bunch of runs early, yes, that will be all anybody will talk about. Then again, I suspect if he goes even six innings and allows four runs (a 6.00 ERA if you're scoring at home) and the Yankees win, we'll be hearing and reading all about how we were all wrong about him, how HE HAD PROVEN us wrong, the redemption of A.J. Burnett.
A.J. will have to throw a complete game no hitter to be redeemed. If he has the same line as Verlander he will be "bailed out" by the offense. A.J.'s narrative is that he is terrible.
ReplyDeletewith Rick Porcello flying under the radar
ReplyDelete97-win season on the line, and it comes down to the fact that the only person you have to run out there to save it is A.J. Burnett. They must have thought they could hide him.
ReplyDeleteInteresting point. It felt like a great performance, but if the Tigers didn't get that 5th run, we wouldn't be talking about it all.
ReplyDeleteJoe, you just did what you always point out when other writers do it. you left out the glaring reason why people were saying Verlander was so great last night. The dude pitched on 2 days rest!!! Yes, he only pitched 1 inning and 24 (or whatever) pitches in game 1, but he threw his pre-game routine, which is in some cases 50 pitches before the game starts, plus the whole mental part of just having to do it all again 2 days later, regardless of how many pitches you threw…these guys are so programmed to pitch on 4 days rest, that even when they get an extra day off, it seems to impact them slightly…Verlander threw pitch #115 at 101 MPH, on 2 days rest, whereas CC lasted 5 1/3 on the same rest. Joe, c’mon…you have come across as such a Verlander hater these past 2 months because you don’t think a pitcher should win the MVP; fine. But what he did last night, on 2 days rest, was impressive against the mighty New York Yankees lineup.
ReplyDeleteI was going to make a point, but Benny T just said it all.
ReplyDeleteWe have GOT to retire the use of the word "hater." Joe calls Verlander the most exciting player in baseball, has discussed how he could vote for a pitcher for MVP, and has generally treated the man fairly in everything I've read. The fact that he doesn't get on his knees and worship him as a demi-god is not quite the same thing as "hating" him.
ReplyDeleteC'mon guys...2 days rest? He pitched one inning and you are going to call it two days rest and act like he had a full outing. Yes he had his pregame routine, but guess what...he always does. That is not two days rest. For course he was not fully rested, but to fawn on about two days rest is disingenuous.
ReplyDeleteThe umpire crew really has a lot to answer for in why they started game 1 at all when that is all they could get in before a rainout.
Benny made the point I was going to make also. Bottom line: The change in routine and short rest obviously majorly impacted CC, and it effected Verlander too, just not to the same extent. To go out and throw the 8th inning with Benoit unavailable to bridge to Valverde was huge. Was it Verlander's best pitching? Not by a long shot. But given the circumstances of the short rest and against that lineup, he went out and threw a better game than James Shields, David Price, Ian Kennedy, or Cliff Lee did on full rest; a comparable game to what Roy Halladay threw, and a much better game than Chris Carpenter threw on 3 days rest. Sorry, Joe, but I have to disagree with your take on this one.
ReplyDelete@Benny, I somewhat agree about the 2 day rest part especially the physical aspects, plus the Yankees have a good lineup, but this quote:
ReplyDelete"you have come across as such a Verlander hater these past 2 months because you don’t think a pitcher should win the MVP; fine."
Really? Did you read the above article or the one where Pos went through alll the MVP candidates? He was pretty clear that he considered Verlander a serious candidate. And where did Pos ever say he didn't think a pitcher should be MVP?
It wasn't Verlander's best. Not close. As a Detroit fan I got mad watching him get too cute for his own good against the bottom of the Yankees lineup. And he also got too amped up with the crowd.
ReplyDeleteBut geeze, what a gamer. Is that a forbidden term in today's sabermetric world? He is the kind of pitcher our dads and granddads reminisced about when we were little, iron-armed and contemptuous of today's coddling ways. And his teammates play their asses off for him.
Yeah, in the end, 5-4 Detroit, ending with the tying run on second is about what could have been expected. If Jeter hits a double off Valverde and Rivera closes it out, I bet they still would have said, what a gutsy performance by Verlander in a losing effort. But who needs another article about Jeter's intangibles being BS again.
ReplyDeleteIt is kind of funny that Burnett is getting all this attention, but no one is mentioning that Rick Porcello is also pretty terrible. Should be a shootout tonight, take the over.
ReplyDeleteDoncha know Verlander was merely pitching to the score?
ReplyDelete"you have come across as such a Verlander hater these past 2 months because you don’t think a pitcher should win the MVP; fine."
ReplyDeleteThis comment is completely ridiculous.
Besides Cano and Teixeira all Yankees were productive or at least hit the ball hard last night. Porcello's line: 5ip, 8h, 7r, 7er, 4bb, 4k.
This start was one of the worst of Verlander's season. Yet it was still decent (8IP, 120 pitches, 4.50 ERA, 11Ks). He didn't win the game all by himself, but he kept the Tigers in the game. That's what you expect when your best pitcher has one of his worst nights.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that should be the narrative.
The larger point being made here is simply this: Ridiculous exaggerations and breathless faux astonishment and amazement of ordinary performances, events, accomplishments, gestures.
ReplyDelete"What an amazing piece of broccoli". "That is an awesome crosswalk light" "That donut is to die for." Who the hell gives up their life for a donut?"
We're awash in this dopiness. It's enough to gag a maggot.
A barely adequate pitching performance that probably ranked 30th out of 36 appearances this year, gets passed off as gutty and excellent and earthshaking and the equivalent of ending world hunger.
An Eagle running back fumbling the ball away in the closing seconds of an early October game between two mediocre teams is presented as an "epic" victory by the 49ers by a local sports writer.
Giving up 4 runs in 8 innings is somehow "heroic".
If the Yankees come back to win their series are we to be implored by some media twerp to liken the baseball gods who wear pinstripes to the RAF pilots who were referenced in Churchill's "epic" speech: "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few"?
The flip side is even worse. If you disagree with somebody's ideas, you are now a hater, not a person to engage in intellectual discourse.
The lazy ass thinking of valley-girls and people who have made a profession of being offended has permeated and infected not only the language, but the thought processes of people who are supposed to know better.
The 49ers almost screwed themselves out of a win with poor clock management. Again. As they did against Dallas 2 weeks prior. The Eagles were just sloppier.
Sabathia pitched like crap last night. Verlander pitched a little better.
So the response is OMG. Verlander was "Awesome and Amazing".
So what is the retort? "It is what it is"?
Thank you ESPN. Thank you Fox. Thank you MTV.
"Epic"
Not to be total dork/Poz Acolyte - but, how can one disagree with this post?
ReplyDeletehater? Joe? come on.
Read the post "I Hope You're Happy With Your Husband" and you'll know Joe doesn't hate anybody. . .
Further - of course one can say that a guy is a gamer, even in this sabermetric world. Its just that folks who know the numbers might well interpret that a bit differently, or they might conclude that it was Inge who was the gamer.
Numbers don't take away the narrative, they just help us to focus on what the narrative might actually be. . .
I remember years ago, a team won the Super Bowl, and the ensuing SI cover declared someone SUPERSTAR.
I kinda thought he had a good game, but it struck me as a bit of an overstatement. Did he HAVE to be a superstar to have led his team to victory?
Blind adherence to THE NARRATIVE; just wait until the games shift to fox, Buck, McCarver (McCarver: "here comes the slider away"; batter takes a fastball inside; McCarver: "yup, slider just missed the outside corner"). Turn off the sound, put on some music, enjoy.
ReplyDeleteAnd the "two days rest" narrative also is overblown. The work both Verlander and Sabathia had on Friday was not too much more than what they would typically have between starts during the season. Yes, they had the game prep which they would not have before a hard bullpen session, and they faced live batters.
But prior to Friday, Sabathia's previous start was nine days earlier (9/21) and Verlander's six days earlier (9/24). They were both well-rested. And it's the playoffs: they should be able to get mentally prepared for a game even though they had to get prepared three days earlier.
Joe's point is well taken. Verlander was good but not great, but the announcers insisted on repeating the theme that Verlander was pitching a great game.
I feel like this also happened the previous weekend with Tony Romo when he faced the Redskins.
ReplyDeleteHere's the deal: Narratives are for fiction. Reality very rarely follows the narratives created by writers, networks and p.r. spinmeisters. But it's easier to embrace the narrative than think for yourself.
ReplyDeleteSpoke my mind, Joe.
ReplyDeleteAdd his inning from game one and he's given up 5 runs over 9 innings. The velocity and Ks are nice, but that's not exactly stellar. Flip-flop the series count (Yankees up 2-1 rather than Tigers on, say, a blown save by Valverde) and the story would be about how poorly Verlander has pitched in this series.
ReplyDeleteDavid G - You are right about Porcello. However, the Tigers' season is not on the line tonight the same way it is for the Yankees. They've got one to give. More at stake for NY.
ReplyDeleteI think the Verlander narrative comes media ignorance of the Tigers. It was widely believed going into the postseason that the only shot the Tigers had of winning this series was 2 great starts from Verlander and somehow getting lucky and pull the third win out of their you-know-whats.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is the Tigers are perhaps a better team than the Yankees. Their best hitters are better than the Yankees best hitters. Their top 3 starters are at least as good as the Yankees top 3 starters. The Yankees have more power and a deeper lineup, and probably have a better bullpen. But they are not that much better in those areas.
If the media recognized this, they would realize that the Tigers won last night despite Verlander because they actually have a good team.
What no one mentions is that Delmon Young now has more postseason homeruns as a Tiger than Mickey Lolich.
ReplyDeleteHa.
ReplyDeleteOr Ty Cobb and Charlie Gehringer combined.
What E said.
ReplyDeleteYou are unstoppable when you back up statistics with storytelling.
ReplyDeleteI agree to the "What E said" but with a bit more about Verlander's performance. So often anymore post-season baseball "fans'" have seen a season full of average performances by hundreds of players. I hadn't seen a Detroit game televised all year. When a guy like Verlander appears on the screen and throws at 100mph in the 8th inning we are impressed - or at least I was. I also liked his demeanor on the mound and in the dugout. He looked like a cool, neat guy that (along with that 100mph heater) would be a great teammate. So his performance was exciting for me to watch. Yes, he gave up 4 runs but he kept his team in the game against the hated Yankees. Plus, those crappy announcers want to play everything up to keep viewers on the edge of their seats - or maybe just tuned to their network.
ReplyDeleteWhat is always worse for me is the faux excitement that the lead announcer feels he has to create as a team or an individual wins a hallowed championship in a blowout game or match. A team might win the NBA championship in a Game #5 by a 25 point margin and yet the announcer goes off at the final buzzer like the victory was in question until the final shot - I've wanted to puke sometimes, if I'm even still watching at game's end! Mike Tirico (sp?) of ESPN/ABC comes to mind....
Interestingly skewed statistic about postseason pitchers with 8 IP and 4 R allowed (also incorrect; 2-18, not 1-14). By cutting it at exactly 8 innings, you include pitchers who lost complete games but eliminate those who may have allowed more than 4 runs but went 9. Change it to 8-or-more and 4-or-more, and the winning percentage is closer to .333. (Stats from the baseball-reference.com Play Index.)
ReplyDeleteThe narrative point is still a good one, and well-taken.
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Reminds me of the factoid that I saw somewhere (forget where: perhaps one idiot or another in the NY Times) that nobody had had a 24-5 season since I forget when. A lo-o-o-ng time ago.
Said factoid ignored seasons such as Guidry's 25-3. Nope. Doesn't count. It's not exactly 24-5.
Somewhat like "Gee, nobody's had a 59-homer season since 1921. They still haven't. Nobody's done that since then." And of course, nobody's EVER hit 55 or 53. Duh.
+1 to E.
ReplyDeleteTo me, it's like we have to justify the time and energy we spend, the amount we care, the fact that we were there, by saying it was bigger than anything before. It can't just be an enjoyable baseball game, it was a clash of titans, a gritty war of endurance. And sorry to pile on the guy who called Joe a "hater," but I feel if you're going to call out something, it might as well be sloppy negativity. Joe said that Verlander:
1) Is by far the most exciting player in baseball.
2) Can do what no one else on Earth can do.
3) Had a below average game.
So, yeah, Joe, if you ever want to "hate" on me, go for it.
But back to the larger point, why does it have to be "the best year of my life," "the best movie of the decade," "the most important election of our lifetimes." Do we really have the distance and context to make those statements. Not that everything has to be drab with all false narratives ironed out, but hype has become less than meaningless to me. Joe nailed it in his piece about the incredible last day of the season when he said, "baseball is about anticlimax." You have to let things be ordinary if you want extraordinary to count for all its worth.
When watching baseball the only way to preserve one's sanity is to watch with the sound off. Let the silly narrative fall on deaf ears.
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